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Re: Claudette: Make Claude stop talking like a BuzzFeed article

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post #26

It's such a sad indictment of Anthropic's product that so many people hate interacting with it. Claude is on its way to the Microsoft Teams zone of hatred.

I think it would happen with any persona that Anthropic chose. I enjoyed the bouncy, optimistic style at first. I've since grown to hate it.

how do they infuse this personality? do they train the human feedback providers with a certain personality?

Re: Claudette: Make Claude stop talking like a BuzzFeed article

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It's such a sad indictment of Anthropic's product that so many people hate interacting with it. Claude is on its way to the Microsoft Teams zone of hatred.

They should run a focus group!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C08WmKiwcSs

Re: Claudette: Make Claude stop talking like a BuzzFeed article

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is, when the context window grows, Claude tends to forget these kinds of rules. It will then do whatever it wants. I had to outright ban comments in the global claude.md, the local claude.md AND write a hook to catch any that still slipped through.

> The problem is, when the context window grows, You know the problem; then why not address it? Does Compacting the context not help?

Compacting context compacts context. So Claude forgets a lot during compaction.

Re: Claudette: Make Claude stop talking like a BuzzFeed article

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post #9

Has Anthropic said anything about how or why Claude writes the way it does? So many people hate it, seems like they need to do some damage control there. I haven't had the same problems others have but I'm also not a heavy user of it.

They added a config option to Claude Code to make the output concise, and promised more comprehensive improvements.

I did not see an explanation though.

Re: Claudette: Make Claude stop talking like a BuzzFeed article

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude will end the conversation if you berate it when it screws something up.

That's interesting but raised the same question, why berate a machine? Either the agent is not a person, in which case, anything it does wrong is your fault. Or it is a person, it can be blamed for mistakes, but then we can't in good conscious use it as a tool.

One must imagine punching the wall feels good (in the moment)

Re: Claudette: Make Claude stop talking like a BuzzFeed article

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post #9

Has Anthropic said anything about how or why Claude writes the way it does? So many people hate it, seems like they need to do some damage control there. I haven't had the same problems others have but I'm also not a heavy user of it.

I pruned my Claude.md and it made a difference. There were entries there that evolved from earlier models and Opus 5 could be reacting to it in a different manner.

Re: Claudette: Make Claude stop talking like a BuzzFeed article

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Everybody is complaining about this, at this point I’m sure they will deliver a tone of voice change in the 5.1 releases. Possibly with a new set of problems though, especially if this is part of an effort to obscure thinking to reduce distillation efficacy. In that case I believe Anthropic is doing damage to themselves. Caring about the quality of your product is the best strategy, the competition will come no matter what.

Re: Claudette: Make Claude stop talking like a BuzzFeed article

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You… get angry?

Claude will end the conversation if you berate it when it screws something up.

Why berate an LLM? That doesn't sound healthy. Sure, it's a machine, but it's simulating a social interaction - being a jerk to it could bleed over into interactions with real people.

Also, Westworld? These violent delights have violent ends? Perhaps there's a tinge of Pascal's wager to it, but I prefer to be courteous to the rapidly improving synthetic intelligences.

Re: Claudette: Make Claude stop talking like a BuzzFeed article

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post #21

I've started giving these instructions and I think I've been much more successful in generating clear output: Comment blocks are Limiting the number of words is the strongest factor in cleaning up the output, IMO. For older code I've instructed it to delete all the comments, and then I re-comment it using a new session and these guidelines, asking it to rejustify the need for every comment to itself.

The problem is, when the context window grows, Claude tends to forget these kinds of rules. It will then do whatever it wants. I had to outright ban comments in the global claude.md, the local claude.md AND write a hook to catch any that still slipped through.

I think people really need to focus more on working with limited contexts rather than trying to work around it. I really try to keep my sessions as short as possible and it helps a ton with keeping Claude (et al) focused.

Specifically, I like the "canary" trick that people have discussed where you add a small, innocuous rule to your CLAUDE.md like "When responding to me, start every sentence with my name." so that when Claude stops doing this, you know you've used way too much context and need to start a new session.

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