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Anti-AI fonts are useless and harmful

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Re: Anti-AI fonts are useless and harmful

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Post by neuroticnews25 »

SideQuark wrote: post #127
r_lee wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you mean benefit a private company training their AI model which they market to the public in order to get to their trillion dollar IPO?

So jealousy is the argument? If someone reads my work am I worse off? Why would I post it to the web? If someone indexes it so others can find it am I worse off? Should I complain they also make money helping others find it? If someone build on it in a way I did not do, never planned to do, and found really neat new tech from reading lots of works, why should I get so upset? Seems oddly sour grapes.

I don't think we should hold our relations to big corporations to the same moral standards we invented for interacting with people, like "don't be jelous" or "don't be petty", because corporations won't reciprocate. They banned my account, so fuck them, simple as.

Re: Anti-AI fonts are useless and harmful

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Post by jeroenhd »

> Like it or not, all publicly available information will inevitably become accessible to anyone and anything that has permission to access it. This is the baseline scenario people need to plan around.

And this will be the end of the internet as we had it, and as we have it right now. With no way to block AI scrapers and no hope of AI companies acting ethically, shutting down the free internet is the only end result.

I'll remember these fun, bespoke attempts to stop AI from ruining the world once the internet is gone. That alone makes them worth existing for me.

Re: Anti-AI fonts are useless and harmful

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Post by psd1 »

palmotea wrote: post #113
BrenBarn wrote: post #95

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I also don't like the fatalistic mindset, but I feel like we're better off trying to retaliate against the makers and operators of the bots, rather than getting into a technological arms race against the bots themselves. That is, the fight is one of policy, law, and morality, not of technology.

Why not both? Better that than putting all eggs in one basket.

Because the effect of the technological measures is an arms race; presumably, universally so. It's a net negative. The article captures the principle in a nutshell.

Re: Anti-AI fonts are useless and harmful

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Post by woodrowbarlow »

jeroenhd wrote: post #143

> Like it or not, all publicly available information will inevitably become accessible to anyone and anything that has permission to access it. This is the baseline scenario people need to plan around. And this will be the end of the internet as we had it, and as we have it right now. With no way to block AI scrapers and no hope of AI companies acting ethically, shutting down the free internet is the only end result.…

"become accessible to anyone that has permission to access it" is a nothing-burger sentence.

Re: Anti-AI fonts are useless and harmful

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Post by psd1 »

grim_io wrote: post #46
binaryturtle wrote: post #27

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Would it have been different, if they had everyone take the cargo entrance?

Yes. It's about discrimination and dehumanizing everyday cruelty.

I'm emotionally aligned with you, but the dehumanisation is the default state (e.g. the able are standing and the wheelchair user is below eye level), and all accommodations are a result of society dedicating resources to moving the needle away from that.

It may not be sufficient, and we should criticise when it isn't sufficient, but we must in practical terms also accept tradeoffs in a scarcity economy. In the worst case, some of those tradeoffs accommodate one disability over another disability.

If the dean had a swanky office and the wheelchair kid must roll past the bins, then the school made the wrong choice. But if it's a ramp at the front or textbooks, then we must think a bit harder.

Re: Anti-AI fonts are useless and harmful

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Post by ang_cire »

Retric wrote: post #108
infinite_spin wrote: post #105

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How do you propose assessing "overall benefit of humanity" without metrics?

Qualitative assessment etc not just metrics. How do you propose to asses “overall benefit to humanity” with metrics?

Qualitative metrics are also metrics. You have to have a spectrum in order to weigh things against each other qualitatively, even if the spectrum is just a 2-point binary.

Re: Anti-AI fonts are useless and harmful

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Post by GlacierFox »

akramachamarei wrote: post #122
GlacierFox wrote: post #121

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Is this bait? Wtf haha

If the comment baited you, maybe it's because you're holding onto a popular but nonsensical belief system, and you're experiencing painful cognitive dissonance.

What a nonsensical comment. Are you experiencing painful cognitive dissonance?

Re: Anti-AI fonts are useless and harmful

#150

Post by KptMarchewa »

Retric wrote: post #91
infinite_spin wrote: post #83

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That seems like an unfair equivalence. Lots of things you enjoy, including this very forum, benefit already wealthy private companies. That doesn't seem like it's a very good litmus test for whether something is overall a benefit to humanity.

> overall a benefit to humanity. By that metric a complete ban on LLM’s might be on the table, which I don’t think is something you’re advocating for here.

There is no realistic possibility to effectively ban LLMs worldwide, which makes advocating for this useless.
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