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We rebuilt the Linux MicroVM stack on Apple Silicon

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Re: We rebuilt the Linux MicroVM stack on Apple Silicon

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post #20

"You can even get /dev/kvm inside a Linux VM on an M3 or later running macOS 15, which runs Firecracker unmodified." I'm very confused why any SWE is on a M1 or M2 Mac. I've always gotten a new machine at $CORP every 2 years...

Not everyone is at $CORP. I upgraded from M1 to M4 and probably won't upgrade until the gap is worth it (M7?). Besides the memory increase I barely notice the improved cpu/gpu speed.

Re: We rebuilt the Linux MicroVM stack on Apple Silicon

#52
post #50

A suggestion to the author -- don't outsource your writing to AI, or, if you do, go over it with a fine-tooth comb and remove every trace of Claudisms from it. I read the subtitle: "What it takes to boot the same microVMs on Apple's hypervisor, and the one capability Apple will not let you have." and immediately navigated away.

Agreed, and then the actual text of the post gets worse. It’s actually unreadable; I literally could not follow what the article was about (without putting in the effort to unravel the Claudisms, a little like unraveling Shakespeare or Finnegan’s Wake) and gave up. It seems we are all (on HN) thoroughly convinced that the models have all gotten worse at writing as the version numbers have gone up and they are suppose…

I'm willing to bet it's because model providers have gone all-in on programming and reasoning ability when training new models. It's where the money is, if nothing else, and the writing quality will have suffered as a knock on effect.

Re: We rebuilt the Linux MicroVM stack on Apple Silicon

#53
post #19

Hey everyone - author of the article here! Happy to take questions.

It is way more accurate to say you authorized this rather than authored it.

Honestly asking, do you think this post is easy/enjoyable for people to read? Do you intend for people to just paste it into an LLM chat to digest it?

Re: We rebuilt the Linux MicroVM stack on Apple Silicon

#56

By experience, getting Firecracker to run well on M-series macs is quite the undertaking. I'm not at all surprised Encore decided to take this path considering their customer base! At Lovable we decided to spend ~1 engineering month getting our sandbox infrastructure to be 100% runnable on Mac and on Linux with predictable builds using Bazel etc. But we actively decided to take a different route than Encore and run n…

I’d like to learn more about doing this myself - do you recommend any good guides or posts?

I should do a write-up! Maybe you'll see it posted here soon. We could basically find nothing online...

Re: We rebuilt the Linux MicroVM stack on Apple Silicon

#59
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why wouldn't you do that with any other platform? Buy any laptop, stick Linux on it, get working. Buy a cheap shitty Chromebook, ssh to your dev platform, give it to some school child who doesn't have a laptop when you get your real one back. You don't need to be locked into Apple's ecosystem for that.

> Buy any laptop, stick Linux on it, get working. Except it's still a slightly different challenge each time to "get it working", each different PC. A Mac is a Mac is a Mac, more or less. I have a nice Framework laptop on my desk running Kubuntu alongside my Macs. Every now and then I check in, make sure I could switch to it if I needed to, test all my important tasks, plug it in so the stupid mainboard battery does…

> Except it's still a slightly different challenge each time to "get it working", each different PC

Maybe thirty years ago. Not today.

Just go and pick up a second-hand Thinkpad for pennies. Everything will work on it.

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