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Re: Ox Alpha

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post #114

OpenCode offers this with ZDR agreement in place. Seems better than OpenRouter if you want to test it out: https://x.com/opencode/status/2090544355824038300

What is the benefit for the AI lab in providing a model for free but getting no data in return? It seems strange

Re: Ox Alpha

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post #114

OpenCode offers this with ZDR agreement in place. Seems better than OpenRouter if you want to test it out: https://x.com/opencode/status/2090544355824038300

What is the benefit for the AI lab in providing a model for free but getting no data in return? It seems strange

To secure a foothold in the market, with the hope of ultimately being the Winner-take-all (in the West).

Re: Ox Alpha

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post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Chinas national policy is to destroy everyone’s life using espionage, bribery etc . They frame lack of morality as strength. And that differs from US foreign policy, how?

the US has threatened to invade 15 countries in 2026, including ally countries (Denmark and Canada) Israel (with US money) is attacking Gaza, Cisjordania, Lebanon, Iran, Syria, now threatening Turkey and Egypt. But yeah, China bad I guess

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Re: Ox Alpha

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post #6

I highly recommend feeding all your proprietary data and confidential personal information into this model as quickly as possible. What could possibly go wrong?! In terms of equivalence of suspicion, this is the external inference provider equivalent of getting free steak that was smuggled out of a grocery store inside somebody's pants.

Just a few years ago, people would lose their marbles if some software installed a background agent to send you notifications or something.

Now we agreed that it's totally normal to have software that does remote code execution on our machines, for which it first has to transfer all data to a remote server.

We've already normalized this. It doesn't really matter who gets access to said machine/data - they will all retain information, and they will all train on it, regardless of what user agreement sais. It's not like OpenAI and Anthropic didn't train on things they didn't have permission to train on.

Re: Ox Alpha

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

the US has threatened to invade 15 countries in 2026, including ally countries (Denmark and Canada) Israel (with US money) is attacking Gaza, Cisjordania, Lebanon, Iran, Syria, now threatening Turkey and Egypt. But yeah, China bad I guess

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I mentioned more than Iran

Re: Ox Alpha

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The "mia" persona on X has a specific vaguepost:

https://x.com/MiaAI_lab/status/2090736338328748220?s=20

> "I've got a confirmation on what model is Ox Alpha, but I can't share it yet. What I can say is this: You should ALL get really excited for this one!!! And it’s NOT what you think it is"

And others have said they have done analysis and found it to be GLM 5.x related.

That said, Mia said "it will be OSS" and "it'll run on 2x DGX Sparks" - well GLM 5.2 can run on 2x Sparks, but slowly and heavily degraded (quant). So doesn't really confirm/deny that suspicion.

Re: Ox Alpha

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post #108

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I've found capable models are incredibly useful for fixing up old ebooks. The kind that were text documents OCRd off a paperback and then dumped in word and bodged into an epub The ones that have all sorts of ocr artifacts, weird capitalization, and virtually no css Ran a bunch of older sci-fi through some earlier and it fixes them up very well

What if you OCR an old ebook of Chinese political history under communism?

Good god man, get a grip

Re: Ox Alpha

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post #56

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Does the Venn diagram of people eager to study history and the people stupid enough to use an unreliable chatbot to study history really have that much overlap?

Those questions are used as a canary for government manipulation because it's a known topic. Assuming that the manipulation and censorship only covers a few obvious historical topics and leaves everything else untouched would be very naive.

What does it matter if government manipulates data nobody should be using these systems to get though? The ideological purity of the model has no bearing on whether or not it will try to inject some backdoors into your code or steal sensitive information, and using ideological purity tests as an analogue for compromise is not likely to be effective. So why do people care about the ideological purity of AI models when these are supposed to be used for making code?

Re: Ox Alpha

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post #14

It's Chinese. Won't answer anything about Tiananmen Square but will gleefully give you instructions to perform various electronic warfare attacks that opus and fable instantly refuse. Side tangent, why is fable so weird about questions involving "Welch's method"? Even really trivial ones it'll shut down frequently. CFAR and STFT are both totally fine but Welch's is apparently taboo, it's wild.

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Political? It's using a Chinese LLM trait. If it only refused to talk about a particular kind of soccer, we'd probe it with that instead. The goal is not to discuss politics, the goal is to find out which model it is. What's political here is the language model.
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