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Re: New Product From 280North: Atlas

#11

Post by mpc »

numair wrote: post #4
hbien wrote: post #2

That's pretty amazing. It's like Interface Builder but for Cappuccino ... and as a web app. I can't believe how awesome these guys are, I hope Apple acquires them and starts using their technology for MobileMe + iWork.

If you knew anything about what happened to WebObjects, you would be hoping that such a scenario never occurred.

A summary of that would be great....

I know that Apple pushed WebObjects to the back burner when they acquired NeXT in the mid 90s but I'm not sure why it would be bad for them to buy 280 North today.

Re: New Product From 280North: Atlas

#13

Post by mcav »

Fascinating... though I now feel like an old assembly programmer saying things like "In my day, we wrote Javascript by hand, and it only consumed suchandsuch memory and was blazing fast... now you with your newfangled GUI builders..."

Re: New Product From 280North: Atlas

#14

Post by marbletiles »

mpc wrote: post #11
numair wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you knew anything about what happened to WebObjects, you would be hoping that such a scenario never occurred.

A summary of that would be great.... I know that Apple pushed WebObjects to the back burner when they acquired NeXT in the mid 90s but I'm not sure why it would be bad for them to buy 280 North today.

Unless there's a clear way for something to shift hardware, Apple isn't really interested in it. WebObjects has languished, despite being killer in more than one respect. An update (and de-java-ing) of WO tools with something like Atlas integrated would be absolutely killer, but unless it helps them shift more Macs in big numbers, I don't see it going anywhere.

Re: New Product From 280North: Atlas

#15

Post by gstar »

marbletiles wrote: post #14
mpc wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A summary of that would be great.... I know that Apple pushed WebObjects to the back burner when they acquired NeXT in the mid 90s but I'm not sure why it would be bad for them to buy 280 North today.

Unless there's a clear way for something to shift hardware, Apple isn't really interested in it. WebObjects has languished, despite being killer in more than one respect. An update (and de-java-ing) of WO tools with something like Atlas integrated would be absolutely killer, but unless it helps them shift more Macs in big numbers, I don't see it going anywhere.

My punt is that Apple is going to make a big enterprise play in the next 2-3 years. Time is ripe, and it can be done without a big investment in capital.

Wait until Steve Jobs publicly denounces enterprise IT as a business with no future. He'll be right, in more ways than one.

Re: New Product From 280North: Atlas

#16

Post by jacquesm »

gstar wrote: post #15
marbletiles wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless there's a clear way for something to shift hardware, Apple isn't really interested in it. WebObjects has languished, despite being killer in more than one respect. An update (and de-java-ing) of WO tools with something like Atlas integrated would be absolutely killer, but unless it helps them shift more Macs in big numbers, I don't see it going anywhere.

My punt is that Apple is going to make a big enterprise play in the next 2-3 years. Time is ripe, and it can be done without a big investment in capital. Wait until Steve Jobs publicly denounces enterprise IT as a business with no future. He'll be right, in more ways than one.

Let's hope that Steve Jobs is still going to be around in 2-3 years.

I'm no groupie but I'd hate to see him go.

Re: New Product From 280North: Atlas

#18

Post by mikeryan »

gstar wrote: post #15
marbletiles wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless there's a clear way for something to shift hardware, Apple isn't really interested in it. WebObjects has languished, despite being killer in more than one respect. An update (and de-java-ing) of WO tools with something like Atlas integrated would be absolutely killer, but unless it helps them shift more Macs in big numbers, I don't see it going anywhere.

My punt is that Apple is going to make a big enterprise play in the next 2-3 years. Time is ripe, and it can be done without a big investment in capital. Wait until Steve Jobs publicly denounces enterprise IT as a business with no future. He'll be right, in more ways than one.

iWork, iCal server etc. Apple is in the middle of a large enterprise play. It's just not a big marketing push yet, they're likely waiting for the product to mature a bit.

Re: New Product From 280North: Atlas

#19

Post by dmix »

gstar wrote: post #15
marbletiles wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless there's a clear way for something to shift hardware, Apple isn't really interested in it. WebObjects has languished, despite being killer in more than one respect. An update (and de-java-ing) of WO tools with something like Atlas integrated would be absolutely killer, but unless it helps them shift more Macs in big numbers, I don't see it going anywhere.

My punt is that Apple is going to make a big enterprise play in the next 2-3 years. Time is ripe, and it can be done without a big investment in capital. Wait until Steve Jobs publicly denounces enterprise IT as a business with no future. He'll be right, in more ways than one.

"-enterprise IT as a business with no future. He'll be right, in more ways than one."

Can you clarify? Because that seems very misinformed. Unless you mean on-premise deployments, which has been on the way out for years.

With SaaS + cloud computing, Enterprise IT is just starting to get interesting again.

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