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Re: Linux 7.2

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Post by sankhao »

ColdStream wrote: post #71

It is funny with Linux (the kernel). From the outside it looks like almost nothing ever changes. You switch the computer on, it works away in the background to bring up the desktop and have everything talk. From that perspective it feels like nothing has changed in decades. But then you look at the change log, and almost everything you see added sounds really useful to someone working on this stuff. 35 years of work…

I've been daily driving Linux since ubuntu 12.04. Things have improved a lot. It used to be the best OS for (a certain class of) programmers. It's now the OS I installed on my 7 year old son's computer. Things like connecting Bluetooth peripherals, multiple audio devices, multiple screens (with multiple DPI) are a not just possible, but easy now, and robust.

Re: Linux 7.2

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Post by [deleted] »

OroPla wrote: post #68
preisschild wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but this is for amdgpu and they had DP2.1 support for a while now.

AMD RX 6700 XT from 2021 only has DP1.4 (but HDMI 2.1). Dell U5226KW from 2026 only has DP1.4 (but HDMI 2.1). I don't think I have seen anything above DP1.4 in the wild for now.

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Re: Linux 7.2

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Post by hulitu »

ColdStream wrote: post #71

It is funny with Linux (the kernel). From the outside it looks like almost nothing ever changes. You switch the computer on, it works away in the background to bring up the desktop and have everything talk. From that perspective it feels like nothing has changed in decades. But then you look at the change log, and almost everything you see added sounds really useful to someone working on this stuff. 35 years of work…

> From the outside it looks like almost nothing ever changes

You should try to compile a custom kernel for your machine and strip the unneeded things out. Good luck.

Linux has diabetes.

Re: Linux 7.2

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Post by sho_hn »

yipinwong wrote: post #3

Who is the main audience for this type of content? Genuinely curious because I am not a serious Linux user. What type of info do you get out of this for those who read this? So i can glance your insight?

> Who is the main audience for this type of content?

I make technology decisions at a large embedded shop that makes cars.

Content like this tells me Igalia has serious programmers and is relevant upstream. The memory sticks.

It's also informative, which makes me feel good.

They're a consultancy. It's good for business.

Re: Linux 7.2

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Post by usr1106 »

tuna74 wrote: post #4
yipinwong wrote: post #3

Who is the main audience for this type of content? Genuinely curious because I am not a serious Linux user. What type of info do you get out of this for those who read this? So i can glance your insight?

I think it is mostly "marketing" for Igalia's services. If you want to pay people to do "stuff" in Linux and adjacent projects like Mesa, Igalia seems very competent.

Exactly. My immediate reaction was: A violation of HN submission guidelines. Linux is project of many contributors / companies. For sure Igalia is a valuable contributor and I would not doubt to recommend them for serious Linux work, but this "article" is pure marketing.

https://lwn.net/Articles/1088991/ has all the relevant links. Probably somewhwere there is also a more detailed "neutral" article.

Re: Linux 7.2

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Post by bdhdhduuyd »

ColdStream wrote: post #77
reisse wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strongly disagree. Hardware support improved by leaps and bounds last decade and a half. Namespace isolation and cgroups driven containerization. eBPF appeared and gained adoption. Async I/O (and later just everything async) converged on io_uring. Btrfs is _stable_ - some people believed it would never be possible, ever. All kinds of scheduling were iterated and iterated over. All these things are visible across the…

I have been using Linux on the desktop since the late 90's. Other than increase hardware support, I have not tangentially noticed/felt almost anything you have mentioned here. When I fire up the desktop and load Firefox, I do not feel or see the sandboxing, the scheduler, the file system or the I/O. It just works. Yes, we interact with it all the time but it isn't something that the end user would notice and that is…

I also have been using Linux for over 20 years and I agree that hardware support is the most noticable.

This year I have installed Linux Mint on computers from people who wanted to jump from Windows to Linux. Every time I booted via USB, installed Linux and 10 minutes later everything was working. This would not have happened 10 years ago. Back then there would always be an issue with a video driver, WiFi driver or audio driver.

Of course there are still hardware issues for some special deviced, but today Linux just runs fine for most people. And that's a great accomplishment.

Re: Linux 7.2

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Post by lloeki »

gnabgib wrote: post #65
christophilus wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Display port. Most monitors support it.

Unfortunately not if you're running a mac

Macs definitely can use DP Alt Mode over USB-C ports, so if you get a USB-C -> DP cable it's straight up DP to the monitor.

Re: Linux 7.2

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Post by badgersnake »

mxmilkiib wrote: post #78
mort96 wrote: post #8

Does anyone understand how HDMI 2.1 support is now no problem? I remember that 2.1 support in AMD's open source driver was blocked by the HDMI forum, but I haven't heard any news about them unblocking it. What changed?

8K still not working properly https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-7.3-More-AMDGPU

I hope they fix it so both of the 8k monitor users can get their displays working soon.

Re: Linux 7.2

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Post by badgersnake »

yipinwong wrote: post #3

Who is the main audience for this type of content? Genuinely curious because I am not a serious Linux user. What type of info do you get out of this for those who read this? So i can glance your insight?

You only come here for the AI hype blogs?

Re: Linux 7.2

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Post by izacus »

OtomotO wrote: post #20

Okay, so ELI 5 why I would now use HDMI instead of DP? All my monitors support DP, my GPU has more ports for DP ... I am genuinely interested as I've never even considered using HDMI for my Desktop.

Which part of "because the device doesn't have a DP port" is not enough for you?

You can't picture such devices or what's the holdup?

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