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Why aren't smart people happier? (2022)

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Re: Why aren't smart people happier? (2022)

#201

Because we're depressed at being surrounded by stupidity. Or at least I am; I won't speak for everyone else.

> Because we're depressed at being surrounded by stupidity

And then we visit websites like HN, filled with people who think they are smart.

I don't mind a stupid person who knows they are stupid, but I despise the so-called 'expert' who is wrong, but society considers that person to be the authority

Re: Why aren't smart people happier? (2022)

#205

I find it interesting that there's an expectation that smart people would be happier. Being smart is essentially "having a strong brain". Would we expect people with a strong back or legs to be happier? I wouldn't expect someone good a maths or puzzles to be any happier than someone good at carrying heavy things. There's a difference between smart and wise. Some smart people become wise people, and I find them to be…

I kinda would expect a person with a strong back or legs to be happier. I think there's a strong correlation between health and fitness and happiness.

> I think there's a strong correlation between health and fitness and happiness

Most depressed people don't have the energy to exercise, and people with executive function disorders have problems with procrastination and often can't form the routine needed for increases in fitness.

Re: Why aren't smart people happier? (2022)

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Obviously a lot of depression is genetic or due to some unfortunate life circumstance. It's got nothing to do with intelligence. But what I've also noticed is that a lot of people with unbalanced lifestyles end up becoming depressed. For example, they might have a habit of going to bed at weird inconsistent times, wake up late, eat junk food, not regularly exercise or go to the gym, etc. Someone with that lifestyle i…

> But what I've also noticed is that a lot of people with unbalanced lifestyles end up becoming depressed.

This may be backwards in many cases from what you are thinking.

> For example, they might have a habit of going to bed at weird inconsistent times, wake up late, eat junk food, not regularly exercise or go to the gym, etc.

People with executive disfunction disorders (ADHD, Bipolar, etc) are going to have massive problems with procrastination which causes stress. The stress causes them to worry. The worry and procrastination prevent them from going to sleep. The lack of sleep causes their body to search out junk food (also because it's quick and easy). The regular exercise part is another routing thing.

And depression can cause reduced energy levels and procrastination that leads them to missing the gym and then the shame cycle.

Re: Why aren't smart people happier? (2022)

#207

I think being smart universally trumps being less smart - but the definition of smart needs to be more encompassing. For example take the stereotype of a brilliant man or woman who neglected family for career, and are forever single and childless forever -- while someone less brilliant just "ends up" with a family and ultimately more fulfilled in life. Superficially this is an example of an average person being happi…

not that wage is any indicator of inherent goodness but yea electrical engineers get paid average wage in my country while miners earn many multiples of said wage, who's the dumb one now ???

Re: Why aren't smart people happier? (2022)

#208

I think being smart universally trumps being less smart - but the definition of smart needs to be more encompassing. For example take the stereotype of a brilliant man or woman who neglected family for career, and are forever single and childless forever -- while someone less brilliant just "ends up" with a family and ultimately more fulfilled in life. Superficially this is an example of an average person being happi…

As a single and childless person, I don't like the implication that those are marks of a less fulfilling life. I know some people married with kids who seem very happy and fulfilled, and some profoundly miserable and trapped. I may be missing out on some good things, but I'm also avoiding some extreme misery, and generally do feel content and fulfilled.

The thing about having children is that you absolutely cannot know what it's like until you actually have them. And then, of course, it's too late.

I'm convinced that I would have been happy without children. I would have lived a wonderful life, maybe with a spouse, maybe alone, traveling the world, working on my interests, and generally doing whatever I wanted to do. You don't miss what you never had.

But now that I have two kids, that life seems so hollow. Kids make you feel things that you've never felt before. It's like suddenly discovering a new rainbow of colors, or like listening to a piece of music that makes you simultaneously giddy with joy and wistfully sad and you can't explain why.

You can't compare the joy of having kids with any other pleasure you've experienced. It's like trying to compare having sex with having a great meal. It's not even the same scale.

Of course, everyone's different. Some people absolutely regret having kids (and that's sad for everyone). But if you have even a slight feeling like maybe you want to have kids, I would absolutely do it. My only regret is that I waited so long.

Re: Why aren't smart people happier? (2022)

#209

I've learned that the more intelligent you are the more models you know and the more trust you place in them being actual reality vs just being models. This leads to overconfidence in things being a certain way so when life calls for flexibility, your rigidity will make you suffer. Cynicism develops from this rigidity. Additionally, the more intelligent you are the more skilled you become at thinking about things log…

An intelligent person can convince themselves of anything

Not to mention via shortcuts, reductionism, and other (ironically) lazy thinking. After all, they're too smart to take a shortcuts that lead them to the wrong answer, so if they took a shortcut it saved them effort and was also right!

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