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Re: The August 17 outage

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load balancer failure? rate limit woudl address concurrency limits? throttle or queue up messages. auto-scale failed cause was misconfiguration policy, which i admit cannot be handled by my suggestions. The cascade? it's downstream service degradation, which I mentione should have had been prevented with queues. One of the jobs that queues/kafka solve is to prevent these downstream outages.

If your LB is down, you're just kind of screwed. You can't enqueue things if requests aren't getting through at all. Same deal with authn/authz issues, which they also had. If you can't answer the question "is this message allowed to be added to the queue" you can't enqueue stuff. GitHub does use queueing for all kinds of stuff internally, though, because they're not morons.

YOu are making an assumption on which LB is down, and so am I.

Where is LB placed? Is that hte LB in front of API GW? or behind GW? GW can have rate limiter or cloudflare FW can handle the rate limiting. The doc does not show which part of LB is down so it's all guessing at this point so i won't go forward with this.

Re: The August 17 outage

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Everyone suggesting that they simply charge users for commits to drive off AI-heavy users forgets that Github is owned by Microsoft, who has a big incentive to keep having developers use AI. I suspect that Microsoft would even prefer to have Github operate at a loss, if that loss were because all its users were using their models and paying for OpenAI subscriptions to generate the code.

This is like letting someone stay in your house for free while charging them to burn it down.

The long view is that MS will sell those developers the tools that slow down or put band-aids on the damage they inflict on their own codebases by using AI.

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"Since April, monthly commits have grown from 1.4 billion to 2.9 billion. " Wow, that is some incredible growth in a really short time.

So much more stuff and growing- what it is actually useful for ? Are we getting actually more done than with previous volumes or is it just all wasted energy?

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Same. Helping family out when I generally was too tired to do it earlier. They're all very happy too

Are they happy about the circumstances of AI too? Higher resource consumption and the set back in CO2 reduction?

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You may be confusing articulate and confident with useful and accurate.

They really aren't. AI commit messages are much more thorough and correct than some of the stuff I've seen humans do over the years e.g. Fix, Fixup, Fixed some Stuff, Should work now, Definitely should work now etc etc etc.

If you can’t tell how this is a non sequitur then it’s very likely you, too, confuse articulate and confident with useful and accurate.

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AI finding issues in code and reporting them so that an AI can review and triage them for another AI to fix.

I mean, isn't that the dream? I don't know if that's sarcasm or not. I know it doesn't work , but that's the future we've been promised, right?

Why it doesn't work? It is working for me. It is working for bun. It is working for others who actually embraces it and puts in the work to get it working.

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LOL, this kind of things will happen when projects like Bun ( https://github.com/oven-sh/bun ) are running on auto. :)

This will result in pretty low quality software. I've had opus 5 along with its AI code reviewer agree to do some pretty stupid shit.

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LOL, this kind of things will happen when projects like Bun ( https://github.com/oven-sh/bun ) are running on auto. :)

More than 50% of the recent commits are from robobun, jesus

As it should be if not more. What's wrong with it?
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