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AI companies destroy physical books – let's scan rare books before it's too late
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Re: AI companies destroy physical books – let's scan rare books before it's too late
#12I dislike these AI companies but let's be clear here: the copyright holders are the ones locking these books up. If they don't want to print more copies, then they could release the copyright on them. Instead, they enforce the copyright and force AI companies to shred books they want to ingest. edit: Also, an AI company would only ever care to purchase, scan, destroy a book once. Presumably many books have more than…
Re: AI companies destroy physical books – let's scan rare books before it's too late
#13Copyright law requires you destroy a book, if you format shift it. If you digitise, you need to ensure its not a "copy" but that your one license went with the book.
So... If enough people complain, they get to pressure for copyright changes. Which will just so happen to have massive carveouts to let them do whatever they want.
Re: AI companies destroy physical books – let's scan rare books before it's too late
#14I dislike these AI companies but let's be clear here: the copyright holders are the ones locking these books up. If they don't want to print more copies, then they could release the copyright on them. Instead, they enforce the copyright and force AI companies to shred books they want to ingest. edit: Also, an AI company would only ever care to purchase, scan, destroy a book once. Presumably many books have more than…
These are not going to be the kinds of books "The Ninth Gate" resolved around - truly one of a kind. It's not good they are destroying books, but they are books which do have other copies. Just perhaps not many.
Re: AI companies destroy physical books – let's scan rare books before it's too late
#15Re: AI companies destroy physical books – let's scan rare books before it's too late
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is also the case that the copyright holders are often putting restrictions around use of electronic forms that are driving the desire to use physical copies. I doubt AI companies would use a single physical book if they could avoid it - absent the legal cloud over electronic rights. I have no evidence but I can't help suspecting in part the publicity around this is driven in part by rights holders that want to for…
Ai companies don't use ebooks, because they are more expensive than second hand books
Re: AI companies destroy physical books – let's scan rare books before it's too late
#17Re: AI companies destroy physical books – let's scan rare books before it's too late
#18I dislike these AI companies but let's be clear here: the copyright holders are the ones locking these books up. If they don't want to print more copies, then they could release the copyright on them. Instead, they enforce the copyright and force AI companies to shred books they want to ingest. edit: Also, an AI company would only ever care to purchase, scan, destroy a book once. Presumably many books have more than…
They don't "force" anything. Trillion dollar AI companies and their owners have as much agency as book publishers.