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Ox Alpha

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Re: Ox Alpha

#3
We can know if this is Anthropic/OpenAI by testing the "guardrails" - absurd guardrails = it's them, reasonable/no guardrails = Chinese models..

(as a bonus - thinking forever = GLM)

Re: Ox Alpha

#4
"Prompts and completions are retained by the provider and are not used for training..."

I'm curious what the model provider is using the prompt/response pairs for, in that case. They aren't offering a model for free without their name on it for no reason.

Re: Ox Alpha

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post #3

We can know if this is Anthropic/OpenAI by testing the "guardrails" - absurd guardrails = it's them, reasonable/no guardrails = Chinese models.. (as a bonus - thinking forever = GLM)

“ reasonable/no guardrails = Chinese models..”

So conforming to CCP political discourse and propaganda is reasonable now?

https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-4.7/discussions/5

Re: Ox Alpha

#6
I highly recommend feeding all your proprietary data and confidential personal information into this model as quickly as possible. What could possibly go wrong?!

In terms of equivalence of suspicion, this is the external inference provider equivalent of getting free steak that was smuggled out of a grocery store inside somebody's pants.

Re: Ox Alpha

#7
I'm against stealth models—we should know what it is and see a model card with a list of safety considerations. Bit ridiculous of a practice to me.

Re: Ox Alpha

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"Prompts and completions are retained by the provider and are not used for training..." I'm curious what the model provider is using the prompt/response pairs for, in that case. They aren't offering a model for free without their name on it for no reason.

Research, analytics, usage trends, etc. All still incredibly valuable for a company building and tuning an LLM; even if the data itself isn’t directly used in the training set.
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