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Re: Aaron Swartz was prosecuted for scraping, while Meta does it without consequence

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Aaron Swartz's most famous book recommendation, in a now 20 years old blogpost ( http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/epiphany ), Chomsky's Understanding Power, contains many examples of such cases of those in power, big corporations and the government getting away with crimes. I should probably reread it, even though it can be depressing - but not quite as depressing as Manufacturing Consent.

RIP Aaron.

Re: Aaron Swartz was prosecuted for scraping, while Meta does it without consequence

#32
Calling him "effectively assassinated" is ridiculous.

He was offered a plea deal of 6 months in jail. Which he turned down. And then he killed himself - something which he attempted multiple times in the past when he wasn't being prosecuted for anything

Re: Aaron Swartz was prosecuted for scraping, while Meta does it without consequence

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vaguely related I was thinking of yet another irony where the orange infant calls datacenters "beautiful" and now is arranging to give them federal land to build on to get around all the protests while at the same time calling solar and wind turbines ugly and loud and giving billions to companies already contracted to NOT build them it's all the irony of wild greed and infinite corruption, if only Aaron could have se…

It’s not even greed or corruption – it’s mental illness.

sadly none of those are mutually exclusive

Re: Aaron Swartz was prosecuted for scraping, while Meta does it without consequence

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I don't think it matters much for the argument, which is valid (or not) regardless of whether you get the precise facts about the Swartz prosecution right, but Swartz was not facing 35 years. That's the statutory maximum sentence you'd get if you ignored the sentencing guidelines and grouped none of the charges, which is not how anything works. The prosecutors threatening Swartz and his attorneys claimed they'd pursue something like 7 years. But Swartz's own (well regarded, well qualified) attorney, writing after his death, when there was ample reason to take shots at the prosecution, believed that even had Swartz lost the case, he'd be unlikely to receive a custodial sentence.

Re: Aaron Swartz was prosecuted for scraping, while Meta does it without consequence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And even then, it wasn’t really about justice but more for the prosecutor, Carmen Ortiz’s career advancement. The case ultimately did not help her in her run for governor of MA.

How does prosecuting someone who downloaded articles in a broom closet help her career advancement?

Easy notch on her belt.

Re: Aaron Swartz was prosecuted for scraping, while Meta does it without consequence

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This country's lack of death panels is one of the biggest contributors to our heinously overpriced healthcare system. Insurers stopping doctors from prescribing shit that doesnt work is literally the only thing keeping costs down in the entire system.

Ah yes. Those health insurance companies are doing God’s working protecting us all. They have no part in why our system is heinously overpriced as you put it.

Re: Aaron Swartz was prosecuted for scraping, while Meta does it without consequence

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I don't think it matters much for the argument, which is valid (or not) regardless of whether you get the precise facts about the Swartz prosecution right, but Swartz was not facing 35 years. That's the statutory maximum sentence you'd get if you ignored the sentencing guidelines and grouped none of the charges, which is not how anything works. The prosecutors threatening Swartz and his attorneys claimed they'd pursu…

How many days have you spent in jail or prison? I've done two, and it was weird coming out to freedom. Actual thought taking some of my first steps: "wait, if I want to be over there, I can just start walking?" The guards and fellow jailers were all quite reasonable, too.

I can barely imagine facing a whole year. I can't imagine facing five.

If there is a point to be made from what you're talking about, it's about how threats of inhumane prison sentences are used to eliminate our right to trial by jury.

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