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Re: Linux 7.2

#52
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Does anyone understand how HDMI 2.1 support is now no problem? I remember that 2.1 support in AMD's open source driver was blocked by the HDMI forum, but I haven't heard any news about them unblocking it. What changed?

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what even is the alleged crime? If there was any protected IP they would be able to use the courts to sue. But that isn't happening, which suggests they know they don't have grounds. Am I missing something? Patents seem to be very much still grounds for lawsuits (even relatively baseless patents)

Re: Linux 7.2

#53
post #8

Does anyone understand how HDMI 2.1 support is now no problem? I remember that 2.1 support in AMD's open source driver was blocked by the HDMI forum, but I haven't heard any news about them unblocking it. What changed?

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Happily upvoting you for agreeing on principal with me. I shall likely join the flogging as a result.

I’m sure it will hurt my 11k internet point account.

Re: Linux 7.2

#55

Who is the main audience for this type of content? Genuinely curious because I am not a serious Linux user. What type of info do you get out of this for those who read this? So i can glance your insight?

I'd say mostly sys admins type users that want to stay on top of things?

I install Linux on a wide variety of hardware for both work and personal reasons.

I don't read the detailed changelogs religiously but after years of paying some attention to them I can understand most of it and see where the industry is investing developer efforts, what cool new hardware is gaining support and what new security or performance features people are focusing on.

Re: Linux 7.2

#56

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HDMI 2.1 carries more bandwidth than DisplayPort 1.4. Plenty of GPU/monitors have that port arrangement, as recent as Nvidia's RTX 40 Series.

Yeah but this is for amdgpu and they had DP2.1 support for a while now.

I ran fiber optic HDMI from my office to my living room for 4K120 HDR+VRR couch gaming with no added latency or loss in quality. Works great. My LG C1 even supports FreeSync so VRR even works, but I have to route the HDMI directly to the TV. My receiver does not support FreeSync and only supports HDMI VRR. Presumably with this patch I will be able to run HDMI 2.1 VRR through my receiver and not have to treat my desktop as a special input.

It's just nice when technology is not hampered by nonsense.

Re: Linux 7.2

#57

Who is the main audience for this type of content? Genuinely curious because I am not a serious Linux user. What type of info do you get out of this for those who read this? So i can glance your insight?

I look for wake from sleep fixes, nvidia the primary offender there (they have at least two bugs affecting it across several driver versions). But my intel wifi driver (BE200) also has an apparent hard lock on wake. Looks like this particular release doesn't have any fixes for me, though claude says its not the full change list.

Re: Linux 7.2

#58

Who is the main audience for this type of content? Genuinely curious because I am not a serious Linux user. What type of info do you get out of this for those who read this? So i can glance your insight?

I look for wake from sleep fixes, nvidia the primary offender there (they have at least two bugs affecting it across several driver versions). But my intel wifi driver (BE200) also has an apparent hard lock on wake. Looks like this particular release doesn't have any fixes for me, though claude says its not the full change list.

Intel has a specific series of integrated network cards that softlock themselves and you can only fix by disconnecting power for 30s, reconnecting the power, then rebooting the PC twice.

Living through that made me wonder why people would ever swap out their Broadcom or Atheros WiFi card for an Intel one.

Re: Linux 7.2

#59
post #19

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Oh this makes sense! Obviously, it can't be illegal for a non-forum-member to add HDMI support; it's just an HDMI forum policy after all, not law. That's certainly the link I was missing for this to make sense.

presumably someone at Valve said "either you do this or we will pay an open source contributor 100k a year to reimplement every spec you make for the rest of time"

I actually like that reality better

Re: Linux 7.2

#60
post #19
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC, a non-AMD contributor was working on adding HDMI 2.1 support to Linux's AMD driver, and then AMD managed to get the HDMI Forum to see that their position was moot and was making things very awkward for AMD.

Oh this makes sense! Obviously, it can't be illegal for a non-forum-member to add HDMI support; it's just an HDMI forum policy after all, not law. That's certainly the link I was missing for this to make sense.

It's not like the policy ever made much sense to begin with. Hard to try to keep track of what a rationale might be enough to convince people who are already being unreasonable!
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