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I've never seen a false positive from Pangram for human-written text of 300+ words.
Seems like you have now? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49372618
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Yeah, it's obvious enough on its own, but I'll add that Pangram also thinks it's 100% fully AI generated. Hypocritical to say the least, given the message.
Pangram sucks
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The WhatsApp voice message is very common in Spain. I always find it jarring when I'm there, mostly because I'm not used to it, but also because it seems to defeat the purpose of the messaging app: I can't listen to your voice message on the bus, for instance. It's so normalized there that I wonder whether this is a particularly Spanish habit. Maybe there are a bunch of countries where people routinely leave each oth…
The way I handle those, especially with the people who leave me 8 minute long voice notes, is to have WhatsApp transcribe the voice note for me. Or, if that’s not possible, either ignore the voice note or listen to it at 2x speed.
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> that talking to people is almost always the better choice when you get tempted to write a long reply. I’ve heard this “conclusion” from many people over my career. I disagree as a general rule as much of my work is scientific and technical and long replies are more useful than talking as having things written down makes things reproducible and shareable. I think long emails are bad ways to deliberate or debate or t…
> talk, don’t write” people is based on their inability to logically think through, structure, and communicate their ideas and, instead, would rather connect directly and hope the solution emerges from a conversation. That is a remarkably direct way to dismiss the value of brainstorming. :) Also consider that when content is easy to produce and distribute at scale people stop reading with any kind of attention - ther…
But I’ve never encountered someone trying to brainstorm over email. If I did, I would certainly want to talk, instead.
I was referring to someone saying that said it’s almost always better to talk than write.
Good “content” is very hard to produce. It’s not a commodity. Again, I work in science and tech where truth is difficult and complex and precise. And it’s important to be systematic and correct. It’s not important that we produce content, but that we execute effectively.
I’m usually not tailoring to a single recipient, but trying to write something that’s understood and used by dozens, maybe hundreds or thousands of people.
I agree that there’s a lot of blargh written that’s a waste of time. I’m not proposing to write more crap. My point is that thoughtful prose is frequently the best way to convey an important concept. So I want more well written man pages than people who want to talk to me to explain how to do something.
RTFM is a luxury that we need to invest in, not throw away.
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#535This just comes as Karen-like behaviour: shaming people for using a tool in a way you don’t like.
No way this individual is fun at parties!
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#536AI;DR This is the broader symptom of a global toxic corporate culture. We are afraid that one badly phrased message can hurt our reputation or even our jobs, so optimizing every message with softer wording, more political correctness, less directness is safer. But the real problem is the culture underneath it. If people are constantly worried about how every sentence will be interpreted, eventually they stop speaking…
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#537It feels like prompt(s) is where the actual thinking can be observed these days.
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#538I agree with the general sentiment. However, there are a lot of people asking obvious questions where they are just abusing your time and offloading work onto you. Pasting AI output verbatim is the modern day equivalent of “let me google that for you.”
I did actually spend a few minutes searching for them and found multiple documents and forum posts - sent those over and they were super happy. A project that had been stalled for seemingly forever suddenly was done quickly.
Now that I pay for Kagi search I find myself doing this even more (especially since Google itself often doesn't return great results anymore) and I can quickly find good info way faster than most
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#539Here's what Claude said: There's a delicious irony in pasting dontpastetheai.com into an AI chat, and I choose to believe that's deliberate. It's well written though. The parody answer in the middle is the sharpest part — "this mild Google search you could've done in 3 seconds" — because it nails the exact texture of unedited model output: the fake enthusiasm, the numbered scaffolding, the conclusion that concludes n…
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> if they didn't rtfm they are not being respectful of your time Yes they are. "RTFM" may be an angsty insult thrown around in some toxic open source projects, but it's rude and inappropriate for an actual working environment where you're supposed to (and being paid to) help others. Most time spent at a company at a normal job is collaborating with others. Your time is not so valuable that you cannot use it to make o…
"Collaborating" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here, and you're making a lot of silly accusations and presumptions. As a boss I'm not paying one employee to waste another employee's time, and I'm not paying them to teach each other when the answer is in the manual. The question is whether one employee's time is more valuable than another employee's time. One employee answering another employee's question expends two…
Yes you are: specifically, your job as a manager is to make the company and your people successful. The way that is achieved is through collaboration.
If somebody is asking questions to a disruptive extent, then you reach out to them or their manager to have an honest conversation about it, and to level expectations about what requests for help are unreasonable.
> The question is whether one employee's time is more valuable than another employee's time
That is looking at the world as a zero-sum game. If you devote 10 minutes to help somebody, and they're 10 minutes more efficient at that task every time afterwards, then the company wins. It's not your time, it's company time, and most companies prefer that their time be spent on the most value-added thing, which is almost always force multiplication