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Re: Wil Wheaton on Instagram's new ad policy

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It seems that the vast majority users are 100% OK with giving up some level of privacy for free service. I consider myself fully within that group and do not mind targeted ads for example.

I believe where users draw the line is when a service uses their content to distribute to others for a fee. Using images, essentially intellectual property, is not OK with me. Nor am I a fan of Facebook using my name in sponsored likes. The later bothers me less, but it still annoys me that it is happening. Part of this is the fact that when you first logged on to facebook, you viewed it as a way to share in a fairly private network with your friends. Now your habits must change to protect yourself, but you have no alternative (yet).

I don’t have an answer to the problem with how free networks should grow, but personally, I am opposed to any use of my content as a distribution or free use of images. Now I feel that I have to protect myself by not posting photos to facebook in case they one day change their policy.

Re: Wil Wheaton on Instagram's new ad policy

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I'll be honest. If it wasn't for Big Bang Theory, I'd have no clue who this guy was. Even with reference to Star Trek, I can't remember his character. Not sure why I'd care about his opinion on a semi-tech related topic (I know, not about me and my own opinion).

I'm pretty sure this is posted because it's a fairly-well-known blogger (which Wil is, now) talking about the Instagram TOS topic and not just because it's some redshirt from Star Trek.

Wil was never a redshirt. He was the son of the ships doctor who (if I remember rightly) became the ships ensign, joined Star-Fleet and later went off to explore other planes of existence with an alien known as "The Traveller".

Re: Wil Wheaton on Instagram's new ad policy

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I'll be honest. If it wasn't for Big Bang Theory, I'd have no clue who this guy was. Even with reference to Star Trek, I can't remember his character. Not sure why I'd care about his opinion on a semi-tech related topic (I know, not about me and my own opinion).

You are the first person to complain they can't remember Wesley Crusher.

Re: Wil Wheaton on Instagram's new ad policy

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Axiom 1: Company is collecting and storing personal data that you voluntarily provide Axiom 2: Company does not charge you for this service Axiom 3: Company has no other visible means of income Axiom 4: Company has non-trivial operating expenses Given that this covers a huge amount of "our digital life", there are a few possible solutions: - Keep getting services without paying money but paying with privacy - Identif…

> Axiom 3: Company has no other visible means of income

This is not true.

There are plenty of other ways for social sites to make money. If Twitter is doing billions off promoted Tweets, then surely a company like Facebook which has even more data on you can make a similar amount selling standard targeted advertising.

What we are seeing here is crossing the line. The worst thing is, this data was acquired under completely different terms and conditions. I never agreed to this when I signed up, and there is the faint scent of bullshit now that the company is trying to turn around years after that fact and retrospectively acquire my data. 'Opt out by deleting' doesn't cut it - we had a contract!

Re: Wil Wheaton on Instagram's new ad policy

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Axiom 1: Company is collecting and storing personal data that you voluntarily provide Axiom 2: Company does not charge you for this service Axiom 3: Company has no other visible means of income Axiom 4: Company has non-trivial operating expenses Given that this covers a huge amount of "our digital life", there are a few possible solutions: - Keep getting services without paying money but paying with privacy - Identif…

Wil's point about companies using information about you that you did not provide, and in fact have no relationship with, business or otherwise, is a more interesting one. For some people, contact information is a very sensitive matter, and celebrities are the uninteresting case, compared to those being stalked, witness protection, etc. How are we going to deal with this?

Especially in light of the fact that the data is essentially unprotectable. It is not often observed that "DRM in general is impossible" doesn't just apply to media conglomerates, but to people as well; there's no way to DRM your phone number or address, either. So that's pretty much out. What's next?

Re: Wil Wheaton on Instagram's new ad policy

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Axiom 1: Company is collecting and storing personal data that you voluntarily provide Axiom 2: Company does not charge you for this service Axiom 3: Company has no other visible means of income Axiom 4: Company has non-trivial operating expenses Given that this covers a huge amount of "our digital life", there are a few possible solutions: - Keep getting services without paying money but paying with privacy - Identif…

If you take a picture of me and upload it on instagram, I have not agreed to their tos and have not voluntarily given them anything.

So no, this does not exactly compare with facebook.

Re: Wil Wheaton on Instagram's new ad policy

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post #3

Axiom 1: Company is collecting and storing personal data that you voluntarily provide Axiom 2: Company does not charge you for this service Axiom 3: Company has no other visible means of income Axiom 4: Company has non-trivial operating expenses Given that this covers a huge amount of "our digital life", there are a few possible solutions: - Keep getting services without paying money but paying with privacy - Identif…

    Axiom 5: Company X's only chance of monetization is
    by IPO or acquisition by Company Y.

    If Company X is acquired by Company Y,
    goto Axiom 1 through 5 for Company Y.
Independence is also important, when it comes to privacy.

I don't know how Tumblr is doing - it seems like it's under some pressure to do a better job of monetization - but there's been this idea of a bubble in social media for years, and it we are beginning realize that in some way we were right. It's just that we didn't consider that companies would pursue the sinister solutions to their fiscal quandaries.

Makes you wonder how this makes the investors look.

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