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Re: Slack Code

#51
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SaaS companies have run out of ideas. No one truly needs another coding agent. I weep for SaaS's future.

Like they say this is a new way of coding, anyone can build ANYTHING and they chose to make another Claude Code and presents it like its an original invention

Re: Slack Code

#52
post #11

SaaS companies have run out of ideas. No one truly needs another coding agent. I weep for SaaS's future.

This is how software trends go. AI has already had several of these; it started with every site needing their own chatbot powered by AI. A decade ago, every product was trying to integrate some sort of blockchain. It takes time for them to shake out to where they actually belong.

Re: Slack Code

#53

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That’s fine, and you’re doing fine. In fact, in a few years you will probably be far more skilled than most “software engineers”.

Real question here, as I'm struggling with this and I'm not finding a lot of evidence to support my inclination (that you are correct). Why would this person be more skilled? And more importantly, what does it mean to be "skilled" in the era of AI? I'm trying to be open-minded to both sides, but I have senior engineers on my team with a fleet of agents, shipping code they don't fully understand, and... everything is…

> Software works 80-90% of the team exactly as it should.

Either you work in a non-standard field, or your standards for software are way too low.

What software gets to fail 80% of the time? If your ecommerce checkout software fails 1 in 5 times, you don't have an ecommerce business at all, you are dead in the water. If your airline booking software fails for 1 in 5 customers, you are out of business.

99.99% reliability still means 1 in 10000 customers are experiencing an error, which at scale can mean thousands to millions per day. That's completely unacceptable for any software I've ever been involved with writing.

Re: Slack Code

#54
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I used to be that person, and suddenly I haven’t opened an editor or written a line of code by hand in 6+ months.

Same here. All I do now is spend all day on calls with people whose shit exploded and I'm trying to scrub it off the walls, ceiling and the customers.

All money is green. Ensure you are being compensated sufficiently for your time.

Re: Slack Code

#55
post #16

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I used to be that person, and suddenly I haven’t opened an editor or written a line of code by hand in 6+ months.

Same here. All I do now is spend all day on calls with people whose shit exploded and I'm trying to scrub it off the walls, ceiling and the customers.

Ah, so then you became a plumber!

Re: Slack Code

#57

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Same here. All I do now is spend all day on calls with people whose shit exploded and I'm trying to scrub it off the walls, ceiling and the customers.

All money is green. Ensure you are being compensated sufficiently for your time.

Yes. No money no work.

Re: Slack Code

#58
post #11

SaaS companies have run out of ideas. No one truly needs another coding agent. I weep for SaaS's future.

The amazing thing is that there is almost always an open-source alternative that is 10x better in many ways, in the case of slack https://mattermost.com/

I'm looking forward for AI to make it very easy to deploy your own tools and walk away from all this SAAS.

slack, jira, notion, even google suite

AI makes the cost of software development much lower, which means you can have a very good alternative that you can self host.

I'm thinking of companies that has 1000+ employees that pay millions annually in SaaS subscriptions.

SaaS is a tax on b2c business that will be reduced.

Re: Slack Code

#60
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Real question here, as I'm struggling with this and I'm not finding a lot of evidence to support my inclination (that you are correct). Why would this person be more skilled? And more importantly, what does it mean to be "skilled" in the era of AI? I'm trying to be open-minded to both sides, but I have senior engineers on my team with a fleet of agents, shipping code they don't fully understand, and... everything is…

> Software works 80-90% of the team exactly as it should. Either you work in a non-standard field, or your standards for software are way too low. What software gets to fail 80% of the time? If your ecommerce checkout software fails 1 in 5 times, you don't have an ecommerce business at all, you are dead in the water. If your airline booking software fails for 1 in 5 customers, you are out of business. 99.99% reliabil…

I think you might be taking that number a bit too literally. What I mean is, it works enough that no one is complaining. But, all software has bugs. Some are logic/syntax bugs, and some are intent. "It should do this, but actually does that."

The sum of ALL of these classes of bugs is such that our clients haven't complained about the software being particularly faulty. It's impossible to tell if it's more or less buggy than it would've been written entirely by hand, but I suspect it's less buggy than it would be if written by hand.

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