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Re: Don't paste the AI, please

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Post by swat535 »

john_strinlai wrote: post #364
mhaberl wrote: post #353

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> Back in the day I learned the hard way that sending a long reply to an email just ensures the other side won't read it. You can't assume that you dealt with their request effectively that way Then I guess you didn't deal with much of the empty-headed-managment type much. I learned a different lesson: Write a long email that took time to reason and write, precise and complete text. You get a short reply that is a re…

> This is true 100% I would even say: "Never reply on anything instantly that is not an absolute emergency, ever" you can shorten this to "never reply instantly", because an "absolute emergency" will never be communicated by email.

I take that a step further, "absolute emergency" is rarely an "emergency".

Based on my experience, it mostly translates to whatever task the person thinks it's important for them. Sometimes people will mark the task as "urgent" just to dump it on someone else.

The other thing is, in critical emergencies, you should work slower than usual. This means muting all notifications and taking your time. Rushing to get things done can exacerbate the issue.

Best engineering managers shield the team in those situation and simply reply with: "thanks, we've been notified and investigating".

Re: Don't paste the AI, please

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Post by setgree »

throwaway98797 wrote: post #497
setgree wrote: post #453

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What I wrote was neither passive nor aggressive. My telling you now that I think your response was ill-considered is also not passive aggressive, though it's arguably aggressive.

this maybe a me issue any kind of softness in language like “i’ll-considered” sounds so sterile that i sense hatred underneath. too much time in big companies. more sharing a crazy person take on how different words can be interpreted counter to the intent.

I do not hate you :) I think you will probably have more positive interactions on the internet if you choose a different register to communicate in but I promise I do not actually care

Re: Don't paste the AI, please

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Post by rglover »

gabosarmiento wrote: post #190

AI;DR This is the broader symptom of a global toxic corporate culture. We are afraid that one badly phrased message can hurt our reputation or even our jobs, so optimizing every message with softer wording, more political correctness, less directness is safer. But the real problem is the culture underneath it. If people are constantly worried about how every sentence will be interpreted, eventually they stop speaking…

People need to internalize what Bernie Mac says here [1].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t35rEpCur2E

Re: Don't paste the AI, please

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Post by throwaway98797 »

setgree wrote: post #512
throwaway98797 wrote: post #497

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this maybe a me issue any kind of softness in language like “i’ll-considered” sounds so sterile that i sense hatred underneath. too much time in big companies. more sharing a crazy person take on how different words can be interpreted counter to the intent.

I do not hate you :) I think you will probably have more positive interactions on the internet if you choose a different register to communicate in but I promise I do not actually care

ha! i like the negativity since the anonymous thing frees me to be me

i hate being civil!

Re: Don't paste the AI, please

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Post by Forgeties79 »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #344
Forgeties79 wrote: post #319

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> what’s the equivalent of “google it yourself” these days? Do you actually say that to people? Edit: i’ve hit the comment limit per given time, but all I have to say is “what have you found so far?” And “Google it yourself” are radically different responses man. The former is far more reasonable, it shows you are willing to be helpful and is a productive question. The other is just rude and implies your time is too…

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=do+people+say+google+it+yourself Thanks for reminding me of lmgtfy. We used to say that all the time 20 years ago, and it was way politer than how the people older than us spoke. It took some getting used to, but I really miss the hilariously mean bluntness of the IT/tech world. In retrospect, I think it was just a bunch of people who grew up breathing in leaded gas fumes, with undiagnosed menta…

Absolutely revisionist history.

That was never an acceptable thing to do outside of light hearted joking. You’d do that to a colleague or someone asking for help in earnest?

It’s a deliberate, rude act that is aggressively proclaiming “how dare you waste my time.“ God help you if you ever ask a question you could’ve looked up yourself, because of course you never do that right? You always make sure to engage in rigorous scholarly research before daring to bother somebody.

Re: Don't paste the AI, please

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Post by Forgeties79 »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #374
Forgeties79 wrote: post #319

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> what’s the equivalent of “google it yourself” these days? Do you actually say that to people? Edit: i’ve hit the comment limit per given time, but all I have to say is “what have you found so far?” And “Google it yourself” are radically different responses man. The former is far more reasonable, it shows you are willing to be helpful and is a productive question. The other is just rude and implies your time is too…

"RTFM" was a common answer to an obvious question, back in the day. If your question shows that you haven't done basic research, because your question would be answered by the most basic of research (like reading that entry in the manual), then you're wasting my time with your laziness. That might be regarded as deserving a bit of rudeness in the answer. (The exception is with someone who is so new that they don't ev…

> If your question shows that you haven't done basic research

You added this to the conversation. That was not the original discussion.

Also you and I both have absolutely asked people questions we could have looked up but we knew they likely knew offhand. I don’t understand why some of you think your time is so precious that’s every single question ever asked of you must meet some minimum, arbitrary bar you’ve set internally before you deign to come down from the mountain and bestow knowledge upon your friends and family.

Re: Don't paste the AI, please

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Post by infamouscow »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #412
bluGill wrote: post #398

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I always tell people "Here is the documentation, please tell me what is hard to understand so I can fix it". When someone is new on my team I tell them "here is our team documentation, your first task is to fix it so that the next person can follow the directions correctly". That is I make the conversation not about them reading the manual, but about making it worth reading. There is a large amount of really bad docu…

If your customers or colleagues are asking questions answered by your documentation, it's often a good sign your documentation has some challenges: dense; intimidating; inaccessible; or not easy to search for the specific information you want. Take this valuable signal as a gift, letting you know there is an opportunity to improve the documentation. You could become known as a helpful person, rather than a maybe-effi…

So how exactly are you supposed to distinguish needing to improve the documentation from the fact that half the population—through no fault of their own—might be fundemenetally incapable of understanding the documentation? You can only polish something so much. Without a limiting principle this becomes unfalsifiable and an endless time sink.

Re: Don't paste the AI, please

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Post by setgree »

throwaway98797 wrote: post #514
setgree wrote: post #512

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I do not hate you :) I think you will probably have more positive interactions on the internet if you choose a different register to communicate in but I promise I do not actually care

ha! i like the negativity since the anonymous thing frees me to be me i hate being civil!

~salute-emoji~

Re: Don't paste the AI, please

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Post by wreath »

blensor wrote: post #244
mscbuck wrote: post #48

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Just want to say, "Copying and pasting Claude responses into Slack or an email directly shifts the burden of comprehension and understanding to everyone else" is something that I don't think I really internalized until you wrote it in that way. Which I think is evidence of what you are talking about.

Tangentially I also hate if someone answers with a voice message. I can understand that there are situations where you just can't type out the answer and those exceptions are of course fine, but if you post a voice message or god forbid a video message in a group chat you are forcing everyone to take the time and sit through it.

Same here. I sometimes dont feel like typing but I use voice dictation, that should be the first option in a text convo imo.
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