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Re: Go 1.27

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Post by evantbyrne »

drivebyhooting wrote: post #114
evantbyrne wrote: post #109

Generic methods are a huge win for the language. I've been waiting on these kinds of improvements to the type system before resuming work on my database toolkit.

I know this is an extremely unwelcome comment but I just have to ask… have you considered rust? Especially for a DB. I just had excellent success migrating a go code base to rust completely AI driven. It led to a healthy performance boost too, as now I don’t need to worry about GC pressure contortions.

Ecosystem is my primary concern when it comes to language choice and I'm not worried about speed differences between Go and Rust. Unfortunately, Python is probably still the most practical choice for backend/pipeline engineering at the moment. That does mean there are Rust libraries being used indirectly though.

Re: Go 1.27

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Post by philote »

gizzlon wrote: post #167
whack wrote: post #120

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Wow, that thread is a piece of work > Gofmt was written to reduce the number of pointless discussions about code formatting. It succeeded admirably. I'm sad to say it had no effect whatsoever on the number of pointless discussions about syntax highlighting, or as I prefer to call it, spitzensparken blinkelichtzen. > When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I beca…

> because otherwise, he sounds insufferable Oh come on, I like syntax highlights, but this is not "insufferable". It's just opinions expressed strongly, with probably some tounge-in-cheek

He sounds insufferable because he's calling syntax highlighting childish. Not simply politely saying it's not his thing. It's like he can't understand why anyone else would use it, or isn't bothering to. Maybe there's more nuance to what he said, but it's not obvious from the quote.

Re: Go 1.27

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Post by poncho_romero »

nopurpose wrote: post #188
abtinf wrote: post #84

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That’s an interesting point. The reason traffic lights are colored is because they are showing distinct states of the same thing and the color is the means of differentiating. Same for transit maps: different routes are colored to distinguish them from other routes, which is especially useful if they overlap. But that’s not what syntax highlighting does. The equivalent of your examples would be to not highlight the s…

> The reason traffic lights are colored is because they are showing distinct states of the same thing and the color is the means of differentiating I wonder if traffic lights were invented today, would it be just one light changing colour?

As a red-green colourblind person I hope not!

Re: Go 1.27

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Post by poncho_romero »

dotwaffle wrote: post #116
jeremyjh wrote: post #92

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What is childish is holding up one guy's editor preferences as a religious sacrament when 99.9% of your readers have different preferences.

Well, there's kind of a precedent at least... > Gofmt's style is no one's favorite, yet gofmt is everyone's favorite.

Unlike formatting preferences, the colours I use in my editor don't effect others. That said I might not mind living in a world where everyone used the same highlighting scheme, as long as it was reasonable ;)

Re: Go 1.27

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Post by latexr »

whack wrote: post #120
tester457 wrote: post #61

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> Syntax highlighting is juvenile. When I was a child, I was taught arithmetic using colored rods ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisenaire_rods ). I grew up and today I use monochromatic numerals. https://groups.google.com/g/golang-nuts/c/hJHCAaiL0so/m/kG3B...

Wow, that thread is a piece of work > Gofmt was written to reduce the number of pointless discussions about code formatting. It succeeded admirably. I'm sad to say it had no effect whatsoever on the number of pointless discussions about syntax highlighting, or as I prefer to call it, spitzensparken blinkelichtzen. > When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I beca…

That second one is a bible verse.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians...

Re: Go 1.27

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Post by evantbyrne »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #118
evantbyrne wrote: post #109

Generic methods are a huge win for the language. I've been waiting on these kinds of improvements to the type system before resuming work on my database toolkit.

> Generic methods are a huge win for the language. I've been waiting on these kinds of improvements to the type system ... It's funny that you and many others have found the introduction of "generics" in Go to be highly valuable, considering one of the motivations for Go's existence was: Its designers were primarily motivated by their shared dislike of C++[0] One of the language features C++ provides, "templates", wa…

I definitely recall the days when it was not uncommon to see members of the Go community speak out against the idea of generics and other type improvements for allegedly taking away from the language's simplicity. Thankfully that faction lost that argument or otherwise changed their minds, because I have seen first hand how issues with the type system can hold back larger scale libraries.

Re: Go 1.27

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Post by wredcoll »

gizzlon wrote: post #167
whack wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, that thread is a piece of work > Gofmt was written to reduce the number of pointless discussions about code formatting. It succeeded admirably. I'm sad to say it had no effect whatsoever on the number of pointless discussions about syntax highlighting, or as I prefer to call it, spitzensparken blinkelichtzen. > When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I beca…

> because otherwise, he sounds insufferable Oh come on, I like syntax highlights, but this is not "insufferable". It's just opinions expressed strongly, with probably some tounge-in-cheek

"I prefer to code in black and white only"

"Everyone who uses syntax highlighting is a child"

I mean, maybe he was genuinely trying to make a joke, but I'm well past the point of assuming random strangers are joking when they're being offensively dumb.

Re: Go 1.27

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Post by wgrover »

DeepSeaTortoise wrote: post #151
wgrover wrote: post #143

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Your comment makes me think of LabVIEW - if you're not familiar with it, it uses a visual programming language ("G") in which data flows down wires. The color of the wire indicates the wire's data type (blue for ints, orange for floats, green for bools, pink for strings) and the width of the wire indicates the dimensionality of the data (thin line = scalar, thick line = 1D array, double-thick = 2D array). The color i…

I still wonder why every open-source visual programming language is either a toy for teaching or straight up awful, often not implementing but even loops, when LabVIEW has been doing it right for decades. Despite its huge size and it installing several services that constantly run in the background, it's still one of my favorite "languages" of all time. It's the only one I've ever seen people going from never having…

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Re: Go 1.27

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Post by blakeashleyjr »

Go was my first language, and I still use it every day for projects tiny (scripts) to massive (1M+ line microservice projects) and love it! Thank you to the Go team for everything you have done over the last 2 decades.
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