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Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by debacle »

While this isn't reddit, this would probably be a good time for that "That escalated quickly" picture.

I'm surprised Facebook is moving so quickly to try and monetize Instagram. I wonder if they're using it for experimentation of what their user base will accept. Regardless, I think this is probably a step too far in the wrong direction.

Will Facebook and Instagram be able to clamp down on users with the right acrobatics to keep their userbase and increase their ARPU? Either way, these seem like shady tactics.

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by nakedrobot2 »

As infuriating as I find this, I am afraid that many people won't care.

Worse, I feel that FB/Instagram will backtrack from this, and nearly everyone will forgive them. Not me. They have shown their true colors. I'm out. I won't let them sell me down the river.

Classic negotiating tactic - ask for WAY too much, then backtrack a bit, and you get more than people would have possibly let you have, had you asked only for that in the first place.

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by bad_user »

untog wrote: post #115
bad_user wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Flickr you're still the product unfortunately, although Flickr is much better than other similar services in this regard. Do you really think your measly $25/year cover for their expenses with you? Seriously, if you don't want to be the product, organize those photos in a standard directory structure and synchronize it either with Dropbox or Google Drive or SkyDrive. The downside of doing that is that storage is…

The downside of doing that is that storage is more expensive No, the downside is that there are zero social features when you put your photos on Dropbox. Flickr is better, but still not anywhere near Instagram.

What's the problem with sharing from Dropbox instead of Instagram and how's that any different?

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by Terretta »

cookiecaper wrote: post #79
declan wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed with aptwebapps. The old TOU, as you correctly say, is pretty standard. Twitter's is similar, and any company with decent lawyers is going to protect themselves with similar wording. The new TOU, however, heads in a different direction. The phrase "limited license" is gone. It's been replaced with the phrase "transferable, sub-licensable" license. Also new is "a business or other entity may pay us to display y…

It really doesn't seem like a material change to me. Again, IANAL, so if there is some reason to believe these things would be disallowed under the old TOS, I'd like to know, but it sounds fairly straightforward. While Instagram may have had a more difficult case under the old TOS, and may have had to be more careful about the dispensation rather than just doing a blatant "stock photo"-type interface, I could definit…

> Just thinking out loud here, move along.

By "thinking out loud" you're begging people to not move along, much like the guy holding forth in Times Square.

Re: Instagram says it now has the right to sell your photos

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Post by Terretta »

evoxed wrote: post #30
sgdesign wrote: post #4

I'm starting to realize that Instagram is not the service I thought it was. I initially thought it was Flickr with social features, but more and more it's turning into Facebook with photos. There is zero content discoveries features, so you have no way to get new followers or find new people to follow. And the top posters are all teenage pop stars that I've never even heard about who post completely uninteresting pho…

I've always had issues with certain details on Flickr (perhaps since the Yahoo acquisition; I honestly can't remember what was just carried over) such as the inability to download all your photos at once for backup, lockout of your own photos when your pro membership expires (combined with the aforementioned non-feature), and some other things. But as far as I can tell, the community is definitely there. Whenever I a…

> I've always had issues with certain details on Flickr (perhaps since the Yahoo acquisition; I honestly can't remember what was just carried over) such as the inability to download all your photos at once for backup

The dozens of Flickr downloader apps, and countless free scripts on GitHub, let you not only download them all for backup, but often will keep them in sync with folders. Even iPhoto has this sync built in.

> lockout of your own photos when your pro membership expires (combined with the aforementioned non-feature), and some other things.

They notify you before it expires, and said tools take not long at all.

What's more, their policy is incredibly generous: they retain all the photos for you, and when you re-up, everything's back as it was. That's extraordinary customer service.

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