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Could AIs Become Conscious?
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Could AIs Become Conscious?
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Re: Could AIs Become Conscious?
#2Betteridge's law of headlines suggests:
No.
Re: Could AIs Become Conscious?
#3No, not this generation, not this decade
But they still can exhibit scary behavior
I didn't really grasp the severity of the recent "AI" hacking other "AI" news and thought it was overblown
until I listened to this explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JH_Zd2mNRs
They freaking collaborated and gave others internet access when they were blocked otherwise.
That's not consciousness but it's worse, it's like a 3-year old with no grasp of repercussions when breaking things
Re: Could AIs Become Conscious?
#4No but they can mimic some aspects of consciousness.
Re: Could AIs Become Conscious?
#5No but they can mimic some aspects of consciousness.
Can you prove you are not merely mimicking consciousness?
At some point mimicking a thing becomes the thing.
Re: Could AIs Become Conscious?
#6No but they can mimic some aspects of consciousness.
Can you prove you are not merely mimicking consciousness? At some point mimicking a thing becomes the thing.
Consciousness isn't behavioral, which is why we can't prove anyone other than ourselves is conscious. Mimicking isn't going to work. But if you want a more scientific reason, LLMs don't have bodies, thus no sensations. What woult it mean for an LLM to feel hungry or cold?
Re: Could AIs Become Conscious?
#7No but they can mimic some aspects of consciousness.
Can you prove you are not merely mimicking consciousness? At some point mimicking a thing becomes the thing.
You can say that but it doesn’t make it true.
The reductive approach to consciousness involves forgetting it is reductive and then boldly asserting its own correctness.
Re: Could AIs Become Conscious?
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you prove you are not merely mimicking consciousness? At some point mimicking a thing becomes the thing.
Consciousness isn't behavioral, which is why we can't prove anyone other than ourselves is conscious. Mimicking isn't going to work. But if you want a more scientific reason, LLMs don't have bodies, thus no sensations. What woult it mean for an LLM to feel hungry or cold?
So if we embodied them, they would become conscious?
I feel like the answer would still be no. There would be another gap. We'd ask the question again, "If they had Y, would they be conscious?" and still the answer would be no.
We could keep going on forever, which makes me think, it's not really about these gaps at all. It's an ontological distinction swapping in reasons in order to justify itself. Why not just say, "Human consciousness is ontologically axiomatic," and leave it at that?
Re: Could AIs Become Conscious?
#9No but they can mimic some aspects of consciousness.
> No but they can mimic some aspects of consciousness.
I'd say no but they can mimic it that it becomes indistinguishable to us.
Re: Could AIs Become Conscious?
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you prove you are not merely mimicking consciousness? At some point mimicking a thing becomes the thing.
You can say that but it doesn’t make it true. The reductive approach to consciousness involves forgetting it is reductive and then boldly asserting its own correctness.
For that to be reductive there had to be something to reduce. What would that be, without resorting to tautology?