So ... no more paying for OpenRouter with cards that support 2FA?
Heard it's too hard to implement with Stripe.
OpenRouter is joining Stripe
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#492Great product, been using it for a while. Turns out even a proxy can be worth $8bn with the right business model behind it. Users get an array of providers competing behind a single API, meaning they have to compete on price and quality not vendor lock-in. This encourages users to join OpenRouter over specific model vendors. Providers get easy access to revenue (and data) and new customers with little to no ad spendi…
I think it has to be more than just a 'proxy' what Stripe bought. Stripe and every other big company could build this without any issues. It either is just a really stupid business decision or it is about the name. The only model proxy i know is OpenRouter despite plenty of other model proxies existing.
> Stripe and every other big company could build this without any issues. It either is just a really stupid business decision or it is about the name. The only model proxy i know is OpenRouter despite plenty of other model proxies existing
I wait for the moment where engineers realise there's more to a product than just the building aspect.
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Probably the main EU alternative to Openrouter is actually https://requesty.ai , more fully featured and equivalent model access.
It looks like it's based in London, not EU.
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#495Found a good european alternative: https://cortecs.ai/pricing
I've been using https://www.eurouter.ai/ and it works quite well
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#496Is it me only who thinks OpenROUTER is a terrible name? I was thinking of a Network Router.
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sorry, I thought it might be interesting to see the backstory of the company. I also clearly marked that part of my comment is from ChatGPT. I can delete my comment, though.
Sorry - that probably came across as more passive-aggressive that I mean it. Just wanted to point out that guideline. People have easy access to AI, so they can always ask it for a summary if they want to and it doesn't really add anything to the discussion.
No worries =)
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The other thing OpenRouter gets you is: Access to loads of models via a common API/sign-up/prepayment mechanism. I want to know which vendor/model does best at my extracting-facts-from-text task? Which does best at my OCR-a-text-document task? Which can deal with a safe-for-work beach photo without a censorship system false alarm? OpenRouter lets me run my tests against openai and anthropic and google and x and byted…
You can do that with AWS too.
AWS Bedrock's model offering is tiny compared to Open Router. I have to agree with GP, there's no better way to run an eval suite against many models
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#499Cool, so Stripe basically bought your data you send to OpenRouter with each request. That's a valuable asset that is growing and growing without any effort. 7B$ is probably cheap for this, but who knows.
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It's very difficult for this sort of thing to change for the worse. It's basically impossible on the software side. If next year's model is worse then keep using this year's model. Hardware technology can potentially go backwards, but things have to get really bad for that to happen.
LLMs are inherently unreliable. We do already work with unreliable technologies for many things but there's this engineering principle called "use the right tool for the job". And it's a lot more likely that LLMs can't be changed to become unreliable, it's just how they work. So we would need more basic research, that doesn't grow on trees and for which the timelines are basically open ended. Maybe tomorrow, maybe ri…
They’ve become a lot more reliable. It would be strange if that progress stopped now. It’s possible. My main point is that they won’t get worse, as the other commenter suggested.