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U.S. Debt Hits $40T as America's Borrowing Binge Continues

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What the USA needs is more decentralisation and direct democracy. Why has the federal state accumulated $40T debt?

Because it is politically much easier to just spend on medicare, social security and military than it is to raise taxes to cover that spending? Interest on debt is already a double-digit percentage of spending, so the problem gets worse by itself. And honestly: How many people in the US would actually change party only because of irresponsible spending? In my view, this is like priority number 4 at best for most peop…

> this is like priority number 4 at best for most people…

No surprise, they're (we're) humans after all.

When the shit hits the fan with The Great Depression II, we'll reset our priorities then.

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#152

Welp, I am just glad I have no debts or loans myself; paid all my student loans off well over a decade ago. Excited to not have a credit rating whatsoever.

I'm happy for you, but suspect the "Everything is Fine" meme could have substituted for your comment.

The ebbing tide will lower all ships…

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There is no practical difference. Both parties are glad to drive the car off a cliff

The big difference is that, at the current rate, economic collapse of the US will happen in my lifetime, and I’m almost 60. I wasn’t looking forward to that kind of planetary upheaval for my retirement.

My wife worries about surviving the next Great Depression. "Do we have enough cash?", "Should I put off retirement?", etc.

I've tried to tell her that we're all going down. Workers will be laid off, markets will crash, real estate will collapse, money will inflate…

Best look instead for ways to try and enjoy life regardless.

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By the time Trump leaves office, the whole federal government will be completely trashed, up to and including the East Wing of the White House being torn down to a hole in the ground. I've never felt so alienated from the leaders of my industry, from my politicians, and from my fellow citizens. Ya'll should have known better. It is the information age, all ignorance is willful ignorance.

"I've never felt so alienated from the leaders of my industry, from my politicians, and from my fellow citizens."

I'm with you, brother/sister.

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By the time Trump leaves office, the whole federal government will be completely trashed, up to and including the East Wing of the White House being torn down to a hole in the ground. I've never felt so alienated from the leaders of my industry, from my politicians, and from my fellow citizens. Ya'll should have known better. It is the information age, all ignorance is willful ignorance.

> I've never felt so alienated from the leaders of my industry, from my politicians, and from my fellow citizens. Ya'll should have known better. It is the information age, all ignorance is willful ignorance. ^^^ 1000% this right here. Right there with ya (sadly)... Not at all the world we were promised as children. "Star Trek" vs "Mad Max"/"Terminator"? Humanity chose the latter. We ain't gonna survive long enough t…

Star Trek must have looked a little too DEI, and we all thought we were somehow going to be Immortan Joe…

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#156

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Citizens United ruined the great american experiment. if you have seen the chart of campaign financing since CU, you would understand. Politicians have zero need to represent citizens because they know unlimited funds are available for marketing to keep/earn your seat. America simply is no longer a democracy or representative democracy.

It is still people, not money, who votes for them over and over again…

I sympathize with your point, we should still blame the voters, but the 1% wouldn't be throwing billions of dollars into politics if they were seeing zero return on their money.

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It is still people, not money, who votes for them over and over again…

Well when the choice is between two corrupt and/or bribed politicians...

Agree, vote for the most wildly corrupt.

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#158
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This started long before Trump. Ironically things quite stable under Clinton. 2nd term Bush not so great, 2nd term Obama not great, Trump post covid not great, Biden was terrible, Trump 2.0 terrible. The only real solution is to enforce the actual debt ceiling, the begin lowering it a few hundred billion each year, destroying things we don't need. Require all new spending be funded by the 2.5x destruction of existing…

Why is it ironic that Clinton balanced the budget? Second term Bush not so great? Can you think of anything in his first term that maybe impacted the deficit for, say, two decades?

I'll guess: imaginary WMD?

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How embarrassing is it to welcome foreign dignitaries to a building which has been partially torn down? I man, if he actually had replaced it with a ballroom, that would be different. But that's not what we get from Trump. He can't even maintain a reflecting pool--we're not going to get a ballroom. No, he's going to leave the White house much worse than he found it. Which is his style.

There's a long history of the reflecting pool having severe algae issues dating back to the early 2000s. Obama spent $30m on repairs that ultimately failed. Is your argument that the pool continuing to fail as it has done under successive governments is exclusively the fault of the admin that has far larger and far more serious points to criticism them on?

I don’t remember Obama prosecuting citizens over it
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