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Children's stunted lungs show recovery in ultra low emission zone

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City dwellers are the ones that use public land to store their cars. Of the three Villages I know well (my sisters, the one I lived in until moving to a larger 8000 person town, and the one with the primary school) I can’t think of any Likewise the tiny hamlets I drove through on the way to school didn’t have people parking on the road, there’s simply no room. You occasionally get delivery vehicles stop and it causes…

I'm thinking mostly of eg terraced streets in villages and towns. Similar to cities in that there tends to be a single space for parking on the street but multiple car owners per house on average. Different to cities in that there isn't remotely the public transport infrastructure to support getting rid of cars, or the private facility to support electric overnight charging for the longer distance car-commuting etc t…

We don’t even have streets. Think “dirt roads”.

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> China has 350 million electric two-wheelers, 20 million EVs. And yet they have the most coal plants, and the most coal plants under construction. This comparison includes India. This is PM2.5 map of Beijing today: https://earth.nullschool.net/#2026/08/20/0200Z/particulates/... This is London: https://earth.nullschool.net/#2026/08/20/0200Z/particulates/... This is East USA: https://earth.nullschool.net/#2026/08/20/0…

Those electric 2, 3 and 4 wheelers and electric busses even if powered by coal fired electricity, will do less damage to city dwelling kids lungs than traditional engines would. And if the trend of China cleaning up their electricity supply continues (they just slipped under 50% coal) then even existing EVs will get cleaner every year with less pollution created at distant powerplants.

Pollution map don't lie... and what about kids who live near plants

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Because it’s not obvious to most customers that a corner’s been cut. Same reason most new construction in the US sucks. You can safely put a washer and dryer on the upper floor of a house if you add a proper floor drain, but you’re unlikely to see anyone add a floor drain in new construction because buyers aren’t looking for it. Now multiply that by everything a buyer isn’t looking for and you’re talking real money.

> You can safely put a washer and dryer on the upper floor of a house if you add a proper floor drain European here, we've always been placing washer/dryer stacks in our bathrooms without needing floor drains. We have machines with a system called Aquastop [1] that stop the water flow if the machine detects a leak inside the system. [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquastop

In Denmark and I think Sweden it's a requirement that a washing machine is in a room with a floor drain.

Therefore the washing machine is usually in the bathroom, and the shower drain serves both purposes.

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China has 350 million electric two-wheelers, 20 million EVs. China reduced air pollution from transportation by 80% in a decade. Delhi: 442. Lahore: 334. Beijing: 16. These are the levels of PM 2.5, one of the principle measures for air pollution, on November 19. How China cleaned up its air pollution – and what that meant for the climate: https://theconversation.com/how-china-cleaned-up-its-air-pol...

PM2.5 at 16 is pretty hard to believe.

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Those electric 2, 3 and 4 wheelers and electric busses even if powered by coal fired electricity, will do less damage to city dwelling kids lungs than traditional engines would. And if the trend of China cleaning up their electricity supply continues (they just slipped under 50% coal) then even existing EVs will get cleaner every year with less pollution created at distant powerplants.

Pollution map don't lie... and what about kids who live near plants

Let's not compare Delhi or Mumbai in monsoon season. Get the readings from Delhi in summer or winter and then see the pollution yourself.

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Consider that every single human being on the planet carries around a lithium battery in their pocket, at a large percentage of those batteries have experienced such damage that would destroy the glass screen on those devices, and yet people are not bursting into flames regularly, and even the defective batteries that Samsung distributed for a while only made events extremely rare. Lithium batteries are pretty safe i…

Safe enough to not be allowed on air freight. Safe enough to not be allowed in checked baggage on commercial passenger aircraft. Safe enough to kill e-bike riders, safe enough to kill people at home charging their e-bike / e-scooter / electric car. Perfectly safe. No trade offs, just safety.

I want you to travel with half a gallon of gasoline (i.e. 2 litres of petrol) in your hold and/or hand luggage. See how that goes for you.

And yet, people travel with one or often more than one battery devices as a matter of utterly unremarkable routine.

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Pollution map don't lie... and what about kids who live near plants

Let's not compare Delhi or Mumbai in monsoon season. Get the readings from Delhi in summer or winter and then see the pollution yourself.

Meanwhile I was replying to a comment that just cherry-picked a day. Yes, autumn is the brief good time in Beijing due to prevailing winds, shrug.
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