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Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#101

Post by OkGoDoIt »

areoform wrote: post #26

This reminds me of Reddit killing off third-party clients and Twitter doing the same. The decline wasn't immediately obvious at first, but it happened and it capped the growth trajectory of both. Twitter never grew as fast as it did during the third-party client and applications era. Reddit isn't adding meaningful, human-written content as fast as it was in that era. There's a lot more activity now, but based purely…

I agree with you on this general pattern, but I don’t really see how it applies to Claude Code’s usage of claude.md specifically.

I believe Claude code has been using that file since before the agents.md standard, so it’s not really a business decision to be different. There are some potential rough edges with changing over now, and the best proposed solution in the GitHub issue could be a bit complicated and error-prone from a technical or security point of view.

I’m not saying I agree with the decision, I would certainly prefer if they standardized on agents.md, but I don’t really believe their lack of doing so is deliberate enshittification.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#102

Post by OkGoDoIt »

simoncion wrote: post #100
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s been broken for me for at least a week. When I click that link I get: Log in to use old Reddit To keep Reddit safe, accounts are required to access old Reddit. Log in, or continue without an account on reddit.com. By continuing, you agree to our User Agreement and acknowledge that you understand the Privacy Policy — Somehow Reddit thinks I care enough about their content to set up an account and log in just to r…

Hmm. I'm using Firefox on a full-sized computer (that is, not a phone or tablet). Do you get different results with Firefox on a full-sized computer, or is that your primary web browser? > Somehow Reddit thinks I care enough about their content to set up an account and log in just to read it. They are mistaken. Same here.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it has more to do with the fact that I’m currently in Vietnam. I certainly get a lot of websites that give me extra hassle about accessing from here, or some simply refuse to load at all. Just try booking a domestic USA flight on Frontier Airlines or Southwest Airlines while currently being in Southeast Asia…

For what it’s worth, I’ve received this on my iPhone running safari. I almost never use Reddit, and when I do it’s usually because I’m casually browsing and someone linked to it, and for that type of usage I’m almost always on my phone. I can’t remember the last time I attempted to access Reddit on an actual computer. But I’m clearly not their target user, I simply don’t care about them enough to be willing to jump through any hoops.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#103

Post by monksy »

simoncion wrote: post #95
ghostpepper wrote: post #90

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They finally killed the `old.reddit.com` subdomain for logged-out users this week, which was the final push I needed to stop even idly browsing. I've been using the site since at least the digg exodus in 2010.

> They finally killed the `old.reddit.com` subdomain for logged-out users this week... Is it a gradual shutdown? [0] works just fine for me, and I don't and have never had a Reddit account so I'm always logged out. I've visited a few of the comment threads on that page and they all display just fine. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/mikrotik/ >

That link is giving me a login screen completely on desktop.

New reddit: Doesn't require a login Redlib: Doesn't require a login

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#104

Post by simoncion »

OkGoDoIt wrote: post #102
simoncion wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm. I'm using Firefox on a full-sized computer (that is, not a phone or tablet). Do you get different results with Firefox on a full-sized computer, or is that your primary web browser? > Somehow Reddit thinks I care enough about their content to set up an account and log in just to read it. They are mistaken. Same here.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it has more to do with the fact that I’m currently in Vietnam. I certainly get a lot of websites that give me extra hassle about accessing from here, or some simply refuse to load at all. Just try booking a domestic USA flight on Frontier Airlines or Southwest Airlines while currently being in Southeast Asia… For what it’s worth, I’ve received this on my iPhone running safari. I almost neve…

> I certainly get a lot of websites that give me extra hassle about accessing from here, or some simply refuse to load at all.

That's fuckin lame.

Thanks for the detailed reply.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#105

Post by bryan0 »

Systemerror7A69 wrote: post #94
verdverm wrote: post #72

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people use it because it does in fact make a sizable difference in experience and outcomes

Theres a study from earlier this year which suggests the opposite: https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.11988 Most of the agents.md and what people use it for / write into is does, in fact, not make a difference. Now, sure, this study is a bit old for LLM standards - as everything beyond the current month is - but a) I haven't seen any tangible evidence to the contrary and b) Since the basic inner workings of LLMs haven't chan…

That's not what the study says. from the abstract:

> We conclude that while context files are useful for specifying non-standard coding practices, any attempts to improve performance should be rigorously evaluated before deployment.

The purpose of AGENTS.md is not to improve "coding performance" as the study looked at, it's to give an agent practical instructions that are useful to your specific workflow. For example you want it to use a certain format or specific tools for your project. This is stuff that can't be learned during training and must be loaded into the agent's context at the project level.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#106

Post by edoceo »

richardw wrote: post #83
chipsa wrote: post #78

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> My theory is that as startups grow beyond a critical threshold, they start to attract a certain type of person who is more interested in mercenarily growing within the company / setting themselves up for future corporate rise than building a product. Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy.

My shorthand is builders vs extractors.

Companies start in Growth mode and as they get older investors demand they mature into Margin mode.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#108

Post by edoceo »

OkGoDoIt wrote: post #99
simoncion wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They finally killed the `old.reddit.com` subdomain for logged-out users this week... Is it a gradual shutdown? [0] works just fine for me, and I don't and have never had a Reddit account so I'm always logged out. I've visited a few of the comment threads on that page and they all display just fine. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/mikrotik/ >

It’s been broken for me for at least a week. When I click that link I get: Log in to use old Reddit To keep Reddit safe, accounts are required to access old Reddit. Log in, or continue without an account on reddit.com. By continuing, you agree to our User Agreement and acknowledge that you understand the Privacy Policy — Somehow Reddit thinks I care enough about their content to set up an account and log in just to r…

I get the login wall too. Chrome (incognito)/Android/Pixel

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#109

Post by verdverm »

JohnMakin wrote: post #87
verdverm wrote: post #73

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maintenance, being a good player in the ai ecosystem

this is so easy to work around though. it’s a file name. it doesnt even care about symlinks. if you want this badly it is so easy to do yourself, It’s the weirdest thing to complain about as someone who uses a multi provider system locally.

The point is that the ease of workaround is besides the point, this is about Anthropic's approach. Lest we forget the silent nerfing, the silent prompt modifications, refusals of valid user prompts, watermarking, and lies about distillation.

After years of "darling" tech companies coming out of SV and their eventual turn against users, why do we yet again endure these dark patterns for the latest darling Anthropic?

Have we not learned from the priors? I invite others to try open weight models, you are not going to miss claude that much, the open models have come quite far the last 12 months

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#110

Post by inigyou »

areoform wrote: post #26

This reminds me of Reddit killing off third-party clients and Twitter doing the same. The decline wasn't immediately obvious at first, but it happened and it capped the growth trajectory of both. Twitter never grew as fast as it did during the third-party client and applications era. Reddit isn't adding meaningful, human-written content as fast as it was in that era. There's a lot more activity now, but based purely…

This is the Iron Law of Bureaucracy
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