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Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#74

Post by alanwreath »

agentdev001 wrote: post #62
andai wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sub only works in Claude Code itself (unless they changed that rule again?), and all the Chinese models are trained on Claude Code (a bunch of them don't even work in Codex). I use a custom harness, but I constantly hear good things about Pi. EDIT: Checked out Pi and Oh-My-Pi. 250k LoC and 1.5M LoC respectively. Sheesh. How's that for minimalism... Mine's 50. (Lines.) https://gist.github.com/a-n-d-a-i/bd50aaa4bdb…

They did walk that back, you are able to use an Anthropic login in a non-anthropic harness. (For now.) (Edit: I failed too mention, using a different harness with a CC/Anthropic subscription bumps you up to the pay-per-token rate.)

Doing the whole “pay per token rate” when logging into a harness not made by them is not only being enforced by anthropic/claude though. It also is what Google does with agy (their TUI).

Is there any provider that doesn’t do this? That’s the one I want to support.

  > TLDR: they are all probably doing it because they are banking on you not using all your tokens.
I would be surprised though, it makes business sense to make the default vendor native TUI cheaper because it’s understood that most nascent users will just use the harness offered by the LLM provider and those that would stray off that would probably be more power users who would spend their token share more consistently till it drains.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#75

Post by surgical_fire »

postalcoder wrote: post #28
OleksandrC wrote: post #9

The obvious reason is that they would prefer to have CLAUDE.md files in every repo (even if it's just a symlink to AGENTS.md). It serves as a free advertisement for them. Same reason as for auto-adding attribution text in commit messages, etc. It's the "Sent from my iPhone" of our time.

I think it's more than that. They truly believe Claude Code to be a moat (both the harness and the posttraining) to be a moat. I've been deeply distrustful of Anthropic from early early days. They have always been openly disdainful of user feedback. I would not be surprised if later they try to implement more shenanigans to keep people locked into CC.

Ironically, I think Claude Code is shit, especially after I started to get used to Pi.

It has a sort of first mover advantage, but I wouldn't be surprised if basically any harness is superior to that crap.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#76

Post by areoform »

alanwreath wrote: post #74
agentdev001 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did walk that back, you are able to use an Anthropic login in a non-anthropic harness. (For now.) (Edit: I failed too mention, using a different harness with a CC/Anthropic subscription bumps you up to the pay-per-token rate.)

Doing the whole “pay per token rate” when logging into a harness not made by them is not only being enforced by anthropic/claude though. It also is what Google does with agy (their TUI). Is there any provider that doesn’t do this? That’s the one I want to support. > TLDR: they are all probably doing it because they are banking on you not using all your tokens. I would be surprised though, it makes business sense to m…

    > Is there any provider that doesn’t do this? That’s the one I want to support.
Yes, IIRC, OpenAI. In sama we trust??

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#77

Post by agentdev001 »

alanwreath wrote: post #74
agentdev001 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did walk that back, you are able to use an Anthropic login in a non-anthropic harness. (For now.) (Edit: I failed too mention, using a different harness with a CC/Anthropic subscription bumps you up to the pay-per-token rate.)

Doing the whole “pay per token rate” when logging into a harness not made by them is not only being enforced by anthropic/claude though. It also is what Google does with agy (their TUI). Is there any provider that doesn’t do this? That’s the one I want to support. > TLDR: they are all probably doing it because they are banking on you not using all your tokens. I would be surprised though, it makes business sense to m…

OpenAI allows you to use the subsidized limits outside of their products. I don't think they clearly "tell" the world that this is the case, but they do put out a product surface that- I dont think they would, if they didnt allow this usage.

This is... close. They offer ways to leverage openai subscription directly for 3rd party app use. https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/app-server

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#78

Post by chipsa »

areoform wrote: post #26

This reminds me of Reddit killing off third-party clients and Twitter doing the same. The decline wasn't immediately obvious at first, but it happened and it capped the growth trajectory of both. Twitter never grew as fast as it did during the third-party client and applications era. Reddit isn't adding meaningful, human-written content as fast as it was in that era. There's a lot more activity now, but based purely…

> My theory is that as startups grow beyond a critical threshold, they start to attract a certain type of person who is more interested in mercenarily growing within the company / setting themselves up for future corporate rise than building a product.

Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#79

Post by OutOfHere »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #41
areoform wrote: post #26

This reminds me of Reddit killing off third-party clients and Twitter doing the same. The decline wasn't immediately obvious at first, but it happened and it capped the growth trajectory of both. Twitter never grew as fast as it did during the third-party client and applications era. Reddit isn't adding meaningful, human-written content as fast as it was in that era. There's a lot more activity now, but based purely…

It sounds to me like you're describing enshittification. As coined by Cory Doctorow: > Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die. https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys (Although I'm not completely…

Precisely. Anthropic was never good to its consumer users.
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