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Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#41

Post by Wowfunhappy »

areoform wrote: post #26

This reminds me of Reddit killing off third-party clients and Twitter doing the same. The decline wasn't immediately obvious at first, but it happened and it capped the growth trajectory of both. Twitter never grew as fast as it did during the third-party client and applications era. Reddit isn't adding meaningful, human-written content as fast as it was in that era. There's a lot more activity now, but based purely…

It sounds to me like you're describing enshittification. As coined by Cory Doctorow:

> Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

(Although I'm not completely sure this maps onto Anthropic, which was never primarily targeting consumers.)

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#42

Post by epistasis »

postalcoder wrote: post #28
OleksandrC wrote: post #9

The obvious reason is that they would prefer to have CLAUDE.md files in every repo (even if it's just a symlink to AGENTS.md). It serves as a free advertisement for them. Same reason as for auto-adding attribution text in commit messages, etc. It's the "Sent from my iPhone" of our time.

I think it's more than that. They truly believe Claude Code to be a moat (both the harness and the posttraining) to be a moat. I've been deeply distrustful of Anthropic from early early days. They have always been openly disdainful of user feedback. I would not be surprised if later they try to implement more shenanigans to keep people locked into CC.

Claude Code is quickly becoming an anchor. Every week I marvel at how much worse it gets, how much more essential information is hidden and replaced with bloated useless TUI and rambling tangential responses that hide the useful bits of info behind jargon invented by the agent without ever explaining it to the user.

It's like the PMs for Claude Code are reward hacking their own reinforcement learning.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#43

Post by nostrebored »

Diti wrote: post #17
OleksandrC wrote: post #9

The obvious reason is that they would prefer to have CLAUDE.md files in every repo (even if it's just a symlink to AGENTS.md). It serves as a free advertisement for them. Same reason as for auto-adding attribution text in commit messages, etc. It's the "Sent from my iPhone" of our time.

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rg CLAUDE.md > refactor_hits.txt

claude -p "@refactor_hits.txt support either CLAUDE.md or AGENTS.md in each location. if they both exist, prefer CLAUDE.md and do not concatenate"

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#47

Post by annzabelle »

epistasis wrote: post #42
postalcoder wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more than that. They truly believe Claude Code to be a moat (both the harness and the posttraining) to be a moat. I've been deeply distrustful of Anthropic from early early days. They have always been openly disdainful of user feedback. I would not be surprised if later they try to implement more shenanigans to keep people locked into CC.

Claude Code is quickly becoming an anchor. Every week I marvel at how much worse it gets, how much more essential information is hidden and replaced with bloated useless TUI and rambling tangential responses that hide the useful bits of info behind jargon invented by the agent without ever explaining it to the user. It's like the PMs for Claude Code are reward hacking their own reinforcement learning.

What tools do you find are better?

I have been happy with Claude Code lately, but I haven't explored other options much in over a year. Curious to try something else out if it's less rambling and tangential.

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#49

Post by superfrank »

threecheese wrote: post #39
superfrank wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mine does too because, while I use Codex, my non-technical co-founder uses Claude. I find Claude still will randomly ignore instructions in there. Basic things like how to name a PR or what to put in a PR description. My experience is that what you're suggesting isn't a perfect solution.

Are you saying this wouldn’t happen if the file had a different name? Or just that codex is better at instruction following.

No. I'm saying that the pattern of having one instruction file that just says "read this other file" doesn't seem to work well. Having a CLAUDE.md that just says "Read AGENTS.md" resulted in Claude randomly not following the rules. We tried the other way and it didn't seem like it was any better, but also, given that AGENTS.md is the standard everywhere except for Claude Code, I don't really want CLAUDE.md to be the source of truth

Re: Feature Request: Support AGENTS.md

#50

Post by dalenw »

annzabelle wrote: post #47
epistasis wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude Code is quickly becoming an anchor. Every week I marvel at how much worse it gets, how much more essential information is hidden and replaced with bloated useless TUI and rambling tangential responses that hide the useful bits of info behind jargon invented by the agent without ever explaining it to the user. It's like the PMs for Claude Code are reward hacking their own reinforcement learning.

What tools do you find are better? I have been happy with Claude Code lately, but I haven't explored other options much in over a year. Curious to try something else out if it's less rambling and tangential.

Not OP but I like OpenCode a lot. But OhMyPi: https://omp.sh/ is also taking off. Personally I didn't like it as much as OpenCode.
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