Pardon my ignorance but...
why is OpenRouter worth 7 billion dollars?
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given the costs of the providers I doubt that sharing the revenue is a win for them. They are fighting to be the one and only
no company will reject revenue :)
But every company wants more revenue.
The smaller, less known could get a win, but the bigger lose.
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#293I rather have protocols be built and less middlemen PaaS. One great example is Open Banking. I would support an Open Router that mirrors Open Banking, unfortunately the Open here doesn’t carry the same connotation. Kudos to the team for succeeding in executing around a clear DX issue during the chaos of providers, though long term I am not really a fan of it staying as is even if Stripe gets to be the one carrying it…
Feels the same - businesses from pizza shops to eCommerce sites will be arguing with not their credit card provider about transaction fees, but their AI provider (who supports all 3 major networks, including Discovai, Clankers Club Aierican Express
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#294I love OpenRouter, long time user. Stripe will hopefully be a good custodian.
I just want to point out some features of OpenRouter that make it more than just a model selection and routing endpoint and that I find incredibly useful:
0/ Default routing is to the cheapest provider, but they're usually not the most performant. I'd guess 99% of OpenRouter integrations never tweak the default routing. Here you can setup cheapest with performance minimums:
https://openrouter.ai/docs/guides/routing/provider-selection...
You can also stack model selection in priority
1/ Using broadcast you can push all your analytics to clickhouse / s3 / snowflake and a bunch of other compatible destinations. Setup a clickhouse server ($5 VPS[0]) and send all your traces to it:
https://openrouter.ai/docs/guides/features/broadcast
customise your own observability in your dashboards from there. Superwin
2/ Model router is also a natural home for llm security - OpenRouter has the beginnings of prompt injection detection:
https://openrouter.ai/docs/guides/features/guardrails/prompt...
there is also PII detection. This will show up in observability as rejections/blocks etc.
There are so many model routing solutions (same with observability, security etc.) but they're all 80% solutions - OpenRouter really rounds out with well implemented features that you need when deploying models at any scale and I gladly pay the toll.
[0] not sure if these exist any more but clickhouse is resource efficient
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#295I'm not happy about this. Having used OpenRouter a lot and enjoying the experience, I need to say that corporate consolidation is never good for consumers.
curious as a non-user, but what does openrouter have to do with stripe? Ignoring the corpo-speak about mission statement.. the missions don't really seem aligned in reality.
My guess: your LLM agent makes buying decisions for you. Providers of agents can integrate witg stripe. Those using openrouter click a button for micropayment support.
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#296Could someone explain why these routers are so valuable and pulling acquisitions in the billions?
Frontier model providers (Anthropic et al.) gate new accounts to impractically low rate limits and spending caps until clients unlock higher limits with cumulative usage, make equivalent cash deposits up front, or talk to a Sales department to work out some other arrangement. They are handicapped by the postpaid billing model.
It's an administrative burden to sign up very every model provider, and there are many independent inference providers now that serve only open source models.
OpenRouter provides a useful service by allowing easy prepaid model access with much higher rate limits, and they also aggregate different model providers to route queries by price, latency, etc.
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
I work on DevEx for OpenAI's API - I'd love to hear more about what we could be improving here!
You're supposedly worth a trillion dollars, can't you know... pay for your own market research rather than forcing the public to provide it for you? Is this what they seriously teach devs there?
God you're miserable. Damned if you do [engage with the community directly], damned if you don't.
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#298I don't see the use for open router, I can switch API providers without any hassle with just a couple of lines of code and a drop down. Good for them and for those who milk the AI bubble
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#299Alex's first post about OpenRouter got 6 upvotes and 0 comments on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35481760
same with cursor - which was submitted multiple times:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34423387
are there more examples of this? a bit of an HN anti-portfolio. good reminder to others.
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#300I'm not happy about this. Having used OpenRouter a lot and enjoying the experience, I need to say that corporate consolidation is never good for consumers.
curious as a non-user, but what does openrouter have to do with stripe? Ignoring the corpo-speak about mission statement.. the missions don't really seem aligned in reality.
I wrote a substantial comment about this a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49324405