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Re: Proposal to prohibit vibe coded projects from being hosted on Sourcehut

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Ok, sure. Hobbyist purposes excluded.

You don’t buy the argument the open source movement has been putting out for decades about code transparency increasing freedom?

The code is so cheap today that you can just ask an LLM to generate it for you, for all but the largest projects. I don't get why you'd care about humans being involved, no.

Re: Proposal to prohibit vibe coded projects from being hosted on Sourcehut

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Oh, I definitely think its silly. "Nobody should use nail guns! It's against the true carpenter ethos." Nobody is spazzing out about Makita because they produce drill drivers and people can't built things with a plane and a manual screw driver. I think it's all silly.

But Makita isn't selling machines that can decide how to build the house, and then go do it. AI tools are a mind and mechanism. They're a full replacement for the human, especially in the software space. I think we're genuinely not far from taking end user tickets and turning them into requirements and working code autonomously. The only remaining work for us monkeys is manual testing and verification that everything…

Why does it matter? I would love it if I could get my drill driver to build the cabin for me. It would save me a shitload if work.

I actually have no problem with that either? Mechanical minds or mechanical muscles, who cares?

Re: Proposal to prohibit vibe coded projects from being hosted on Sourcehut

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But Makita isn't selling machines that can decide how to build the house, and then go do it. AI tools are a mind and mechanism. They're a full replacement for the human, especially in the software space. I think we're genuinely not far from taking end user tickets and turning them into requirements and working code autonomously. The only remaining work for us monkeys is manual testing and verification that everything…

Why does it matter? I would love it if I could get my drill driver to build the cabin for me. It would save me a shitload if work. I actually have no problem with that either? Mechanical minds or mechanical muscles, who cares?

Exactly, that's what I'm saying. Humans aren't needed, and we can drop them from the economy. Hopefully after we figure out some sort of utopia, but probably not -- so I'm doing what I can to avoid the permanent underclass that gets run over by AI.

Re: Proposal to prohibit vibe coded projects from being hosted on Sourcehut

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post #89

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Okay, you can pick between 90% NIH with some sharing or 95% NIH because you tried to stop the sharing. The amount doesn't matter; you're still causing more AI use.

NIH? Anyhow you kind of cause more use of AI also if it seems that everyone is using it, and thus you should adopt it too. And nothing actually prevents a vibecoder to clone a repository on SourceHut, they just would be less able to add a ton of crap to it and spit it back on SourceHut (they'll just spit it back on GitHub).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here

I guess that's also a plausible possibility. Honestly I mostly don't think sr.ht has enough market share to matter either way.

Re: Proposal to prohibit vibe coded projects from being hosted on Sourcehut

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post #89

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NIH? Anyhow you kind of cause more use of AI also if it seems that everyone is using it, and thus you should adopt it too. And nothing actually prevents a vibecoder to clone a repository on SourceHut, they just would be less able to add a ton of crap to it and spit it back on SourceHut (they'll just spit it back on GitHub).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here I guess that's also a plausible possibility. Honestly I mostly don't think sr.ht has enough market share to matter either way.

Right

Re: Proposal to prohibit vibe coded projects from being hosted on Sourcehut

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Why does it matter? I would love it if I could get my drill driver to build the cabin for me. It would save me a shitload if work. I actually have no problem with that either? Mechanical minds or mechanical muscles, who cares?

Exactly, that's what I'm saying. Humans aren't needed, and we can drop them from the economy. Hopefully after we figure out some sort of utopia, but probably not -- so I'm doing what I can to avoid the permanent underclass that gets run over by AI.

I’m sure there were peasants in feudal times who escaped the permanent underclass by joining some army, only to get slaughtered in a pointless battle. Even if there’s some underclass society is going to keep evolving and evolving. I don’t think anybody alive today knows what the future looks like.

Re: Proposal to prohibit vibe coded projects from being hosted on Sourcehut

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post #80

I don't understand the comments section for this post, just like I did not understand the reactions when Codeberg did the same proposal a few weeks ago. The kind of person who does the research and chooses to use Sourcehut or Codeberg vs just following the masses and using GitHub is exactly the kind of person who would know exactly what they're doing with computers and thus the kind of person that would not be afraid…

I don’t vibe code, or use AI much when programming, but if I want to experiment with it, I’d like to be able to track my code in the code hosting service I’m paying for, without my repos being subjected to arbitrary scrutiny or ideological purity tests.

It would be different if we were talking about a service I did not pay for: in that case, they can do whatever they like, and I have little to no right to complain.

Re: Proposal to prohibit vibe coded projects from being hosted on Sourcehut

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"Protected by go-away" so I went away.

I don't know if it's not working, I couldn't pass it without making an account (yeah I found out I didn't have a SourceHut account yet)

It took a pretty long time for me (like 15 seconds)

Re: Proposal to prohibit vibe coded projects from being hosted on Sourcehut

#99
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Yikes! I've been a software engineer for over a decade, and I've never had more fun in my career. Running an AI assistant on a cloud machine to pair with me, explore my ideas, learn new tricks, and even write code that I would never write due to timelines and deadlines has been fantastic. Using coding agents to search for patterns, understanding why our abstractions might not be working because of how users integrate…

Are you actually retaining that information though? You're not writing the code, the LLM is. You might not even be reviewing it properly.

It's hard to compare - prior to Opus 4.5 my code was 95% hand-written, with the occassional tab completion.

Now, I would say 80% of my code is written through an LLM, and the last 20% is usually me reviewing adjusting, etc. The part that I find cumbersome is that even when I make manual adjustments, I still need to tell the LLM, otherwise it leads to context drift.

When I compare these 2 times, I think I remember fewer specific details, but I'm getting better at creating more checkpoints.

Re: Proposal to prohibit vibe coded projects from being hosted on Sourcehut

#100
post #86

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You don’t buy the argument the open source movement has been putting out for decades about code transparency increasing freedom?

The code is so cheap today that you can just ask an LLM to generate it for you, for all but the largest projects. I don't get why you'd care about humans being involved, no.

The code is cheap, but the mistakes in production are very expensive!

You want to be leading the agent, not lagging the produced code.

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