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Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era
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Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you run GrapeheneOS on it and use it as your full machine while wired to a display or three, sure. Otherwise, in no world is $1100 for a cell phone anything but expensive. Yes, iPhones are also expensive.
The other thing I would say is that Pixels are just not high end hardware and they masquerade like they are. They get these insane launch sale deals like we are seeing now and the whole reason for that is because they aren’t competitive with true flagships. It’s just not really a flagship phone in terms of processor performance. I know Samsung has a lot more of their garbage software on it but I think if I was in the…
From Europe, at this point I don't even look at Pixels because of their sad excuse of a battery. Just buying directly from China better phones for half the price. Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi are all good, others probably too, Huawei has nice hardware but due to US ban no usable Android.
Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
The other thing I would say is that Pixels are just not high end hardware and they masquerade like they are. They get these insane launch sale deals like we are seeing now and the whole reason for that is because they aren’t competitive with true flagships. It’s just not really a flagship phone in terms of processor performance. I know Samsung has a lot more of their garbage software on it but I think if I was in the…
From Europe, at this point I don't even look at Pixels because of their sad excuse of a battery. Just buying directly from China better phones for half the price. Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi are all good, others probably too, Huawei has nice hardware but due to US ban no usable Android.
Interesting, I didn’t realize that the ban went that far — Google can’t even put Google Play on it for European customers then?
I’m now recalling that Huawei does have their own OS that is not based on Android.
In any event, your exact sentiment reflects my feelings. Honor, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, etc etc, what is the Pixel really getting you over those options?
Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era
#44> trapped in a shape everyone else seems to be moving on from. Really not sure if we were ever there. Foldable phones still feel like a novelty that is expensive and fragile, among other tradeoffs. Also moving on to what, exactly? The regular slate form factor is what people buy, and have been for years at this point.
I'm confused, what is everyone else moving away from, folding phones? The same article said Samsung is still making folding phones and Apple is about to release one.
Moving away from the tall narrow foldables that open to a square, to shorter, wider foldables that open to a rectangle, like the Galaxy Z fold 8 and the rumored iPhone foldable.
Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you run GrapeheneOS on it and use it as your full machine while wired to a display or three, sure. Otherwise, in no world is $1100 for a cell phone anything but expensive. Yes, iPhones are also expensive.
The other thing I would say is that Pixels are just not high end hardware and they masquerade like they are. They get these insane launch sale deals like we are seeing now and the whole reason for that is because they aren’t competitive with true flagships. It’s just not really a flagship phone in terms of processor performance. I know Samsung has a lot more of their garbage software on it but I think if I was in the…
> It’s just not really a flagship phone in terms of processor performance.
I'm curious to know which apps/use-cases you feel are hobbled by the non-flagship processors on Pixels. It feels like most peoples top 3 activities on phones are infinite scrolling inside apps or a browser, taking pictures, and playing games, which Pixels seem to be great at. It's been many years since I felt that a phone that is slow enough to notice - even the midrange ones, and I (used to) write and debug code on my phone.
Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
how about any time the system updates it automatically installs gambling apps on my phone?
Are you sure it's not some carrier install? (Which are apparently a thing in the US.) I have never seen anything like that on a flagship Samsung, nor our daughter's A series.
At work we bought a used tablet off eBay to replace a customer device where they really wanted an identical (obsolete) model.
OMG the amount of extra crap that Verizon branded tablet had pre-installed was agonizing.
All system apps so you couldn't get rid of it.
Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
From Europe, at this point I don't even look at Pixels because of their sad excuse of a battery. Just buying directly from China better phones for half the price. Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi are all good, others probably too, Huawei has nice hardware but due to US ban no usable Android.
Interesting, I didn’t realize that the ban went that far — Google can’t even put Google Play on it for European customers then? I’m now recalling that Huawei does have their own OS that is not based on Android. In any event, your exact sentiment reflects my feelings. Honor, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, etc etc, what is the Pixel really getting you over those options?
Huawei has their HarmonyOS but still releases Android phones too for international markets - but these can't use Google Services, so they have their own services. If it's possible to somehow install google services I have no idea.
Personally I would perhaps like to use or at least try Pixel's software (I've had some Google-software phones years ago, a Nexus I think? Maybe even some Pixel. And they were fine), but not on that HW.
Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era
#48I picked up a Z Fold 8 for a test device, in order to optimize my app for folding phones (also in anticipation of Apple's folding phone), and the squat form factor really seems like something out of the future (certainly something different), I like it way more than I thought I would, the front is convenient for a lot of quick scrolling, checking things, and the wide 4:3 inner screen is really great for content viewi…
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Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era
#49Does anyone use one of foldables for more than a year? I know a couple of people who have them and the massive creases seem like they’d be really hard to get used to.
Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm confused, what is everyone else moving away from, folding phones? The same article said Samsung is still making folding phones and Apple is about to release one.
Moving away from the tall narrow foldables that open to a square, to shorter, wider foldables that open to a rectangle, like the Galaxy Z fold 8 and the rumored iPhone foldable.
Oh. Well that removes the one reason I might care for a foldable, to fit in my pocket or hand.