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Being ambitious and being a dad

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Re: Being ambitious and being a dad

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post #421

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I don't disagree, except that you've taken ambitious to mean climbing the corporate ladder, which is a relatively narrow reading. It can also mean wanting a achieve a large dream or goal e.g. writing a book.

I think the OP's logic applies. Every author is hoping their book is a best-seller and/or wins awards i.e. the approval of others.

It might not be as common, but some authors do write something to get it out of their head.

Re: Being ambitious and being a dad

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> a life made of choices of that kind will eventually leave you spiritually bankrupt. > I'd sure like to earn more money. i heard a lyric a while back about being "unhappy with the riches, cuz you're p**-poor morally" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koVHN6eO4Xg

I’m not convinced it’s a binary thing like that. At the extreme end you have the father that steals bread to feed his starving family. At the other end you have the father that spends more time at work in pursuit of a promotion. I’m not sure that makes anyone morally piss-poor. Taking a job at Palantir in order to make an extra few hundred K… yeah, maybe that’s morally piss poor.

it's definitely a multi-axis thing :)

Aladdin makes me sympathize with stealing to feed your family, though The Protomen helped me place a balance between sacrificing for your family and working for personal ambitions

Re: Being ambitious and being a dad

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post #421

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I don't disagree, except that you've taken ambitious to mean climbing the corporate ladder, which is a relatively narrow reading. It can also mean wanting a achieve a large dream or goal e.g. writing a book.

I can +1 who you're replying to in the context of founders and achieving a large dream (building a massive company.) I was in the Summer 2016 batch. Ten years out feels like long enough for some reflections on lives well-lived. There were people in my batch who were ambitious, not in climbing someone else's corporate ladder but in building their own massive/successful/wealthy company. For those who separated it from…

In my experience, this is the kind of thing that one should explore when choosing co-founders. Misalignment here, at least the kind where you're not fully (100%!) okay with, and you're up for a painful journey. Maybe not at the beginning, but most likely at some point in time. The kind of thing that can ruin a lot, including causing an identity and life crisis.

Re: Being ambitious and being a dad

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>"This sucks. I am ambitious: I wake up every morning with a burning fire in my stomach to build awesome things." And then his company is an AI slop no-code website generator...

I think that the drive and energy to build one's own business (even if the business itself is very banal, like a laundromat or app-builder) is impressive and counts as ambitious. It's not easy. I tried starting a business and couldn't hack it.

Re: Being ambitious and being a dad

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When I hear people say this with all the morale high ground that comes with it I’m always wondering if it’s partially because of some hormonal changes. It has been proven recently that the human brain changes after having kids. I know you didn’t intend it that way but there are so many people that are extremely judgmental about having kids (or rather judging people that don’t have kids). I also understand that it’s s…

I feel that physical change the moment I saw my son first time. Something snapped/connected in my brain. I will do anything for that little thing. The feeling is visceral. It is very hard not to preach your best experience to others

That added some intensity behind my motivation to avoid parenthood: so many people describe having their brains hijacked in this way that I could not be sure I would be immune. Best steer far clear, I thought.

Re: Being ambitious and being a dad

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It drives me crazy that everything in SF is designed to either be kid-focused or adult-focused. There's very few places where you can have a serious conversation with a collaborator while with your kids. Dogpatch Hub (right by YC) is one of the few exceptions - excellently stocked kids space, snacks, WiFi, and comfy chairs for adults to work.

I've been working on something similar at Mox (the effective altruism coworking space in the mission) as part of my (joyful parenting efforts but it won't be ready until winter when their 1st floor renovations are done.

Others who feel the same way may also be interested in this old post i wrote about how to be productive before your baby turns one on the EA forum https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xocdNsa8At3bmQKm3/...

https://joyfulparentingsf.com/

Re: Being ambitious and being a dad

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> Steve Jobs literally abandoned his daughter Lisa because “the time wasn’t right” (he was focused on Apple). Steve Jobs is also a criminal. See the court cases where he underpaid developers and conspired with other companies to avoid hiring people away. That is criminal. See https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/jan/23/steve-job... and many similar reports. It is time to stop idolizing this guy. The "time was…

Interestingly, the case you linked was a purely civil action. However, in 2016, the DOJ announced that in the future, it would prosecute similar cases criminally. [0][1] Take that for what you will!

[0] https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-a... [1] https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/speech/acting-assistant...

Re: Being ambitious and being a dad

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A lot of juggling with words here: being ambitious, a builder, competing etc. It really boils down to the same thing: making more money + fame. The author should really stick to that and stop hiding behind big words. There's nothing noble about the recent slop-producing startups that YC funds. They do not make the world a better place.

I don't know, this feels kind of overly judgy. It's pretty healthy and normal to have some goals in life and even to try to do something impressive. The fact that he is trying hard to balance this with caring for his family seems pretty reasonable to me.

Re: Being ambitious and being a dad

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The older I get the more I realize ambition and "being ambitious" is a completely misplaced way to orient your life. The chance of validation from others is not a good reason for making one choice or another and a life made of choices of that kind will eventually leave you spiritually bankrupt. Make decisions based on what you're passionate about, based on what will bring and keep meaningful relationships into your l…

>Also, if you pick the right partner, For many (75%+ ?) even that is not an option. If they tried, they would be single forever(which is not a bad option in itself)

If 75% of people cannot find a good partner, that suggests that all involved would be well-served by learning how to be better partners themselves:)

Re: Being ambitious and being a dad

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I disagree. As a father of nine children, I submit that the best time to have children is when you’re young. The next best time is now . Sure, you’ll be poor, and you’ll make lots of mistakes. But how do you know you’ll be able to have children later? And what’s so important now that makes it worth putting off children?

I'd offer a contrasting view, as a father of many fewer. If I'd had children young it would have been an utter disaster. It's difficult enough when you're financially and romantically stable and have more emotional maturity. To ask a contrasting question, what's so important about having children that you need to rush into it on the off chance you'll be unable to later?

im in the "wish i had em earlier" camp assuming the same partner. i was not prepared for how much a kid would change me - so i spent more of my time and effort on priorities i would one day drop.

another thing i think about is grandparents. having kids earlier would mean longer time with grandparents! (heck, maybe one day my time with potential grandkids)

off topic - i understand my parents so much more now that im a parent. i think being a parent has helped heal my relationship with them. grandparents are awesome and i wish i had more time with mine.

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