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Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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Tokens are not a currency, tokens aren’t fungible and cannot be traded

Yet

Tokens are minted then consumed. You cannot trade them, by definition. What would it even mean to trade a token? You can maybe trade a voucher that allows you to then redeem it for some token generation (aka compute), but the tokens themselves don’t make sense to be tradeable. And because they aren’t fungible you cannot swap a token for another one, that’s just not what LLMs are

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

#52
post #39

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I get where it's coming from, I like Stripe's long-stated mission ("To increase the GDP of the Internet"). This version is dumb/empty, and reads like brown-nosing Stripe.

> I like Stripe's long-stated mission ("To increase the GDP of the Internet"). Also corporate speak. Their mission is take their cut of the Internet's GDP. Nothing against them, they provide real value for that cut. But that's what the actual mission is.

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Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

#53
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tokens are just a type of currency. Stripe is a middleman for currency. Using something like OpenRouter (or any of the AI Gateways) is better than tying yourself to one LLM provider that can rug pull on pricing or change models in a way you don't like. The value is in the network effect I think. OpenRouter is popular and has a good head start over anything Stripe could build internally.

Tokens are not a currency, tokens aren’t fungible and cannot be traded

to a certain extent, openrouter did manage to turn tokens into a currency. The fungibility is there, as much as you don't care so much if you're getting your token from novita or some other player, these become fungible.

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

#54
post #38

I guess this makes sense for the scenario when we will use machine intelligence as a currency, maybe 15-20 years from now? - like I can pay 15 minutes of inference for a dozen bananas? and the banana seller uses those 15 minutes to do banana shelling or removing weeds from their farms or whatever i guess when robots are doing everything. right??

I hope we aren't on track for this future and if we are I hope a substantial number of people rebel. This is among the more hellish futures I can imagine. Our worth as people reduced to how much access we have to compute. Gross.

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Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

#55
post #44
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I guess this makes sense for the scenario when we will use machine intelligence as a currency, maybe 15-20 years from now? - like I can pay 15 minutes of inference for a dozen bananas? and the banana seller uses those 15 minutes to do banana shelling or removing weeds from their farms or whatever i guess when robots are doing everything. right??

I think this is exactly the bet they're making. I was totally confused by what connected the two companies until I realized "tokens" are basically a nascent, and rapidly growing, "currency".

Overthinking it. "You have money and need to seem AIish for the stock market, we want real money". You notice they don't do this deal in tokens, they do it in fiat currency.

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

#56

> Today, we are excited to announce that we are joining forces with Stripe, to power the next wave of GDP growth globally. This is some high level meaningless corpo speak.

https://www.axios.com/2026/08/19/stripe-payments-openrouter-...

https://stripe.com/annual-updates/2025

> Stripe last said businesses on its platform generated $1.9 trillion in payment volume in 2025, up 34% year over year.

More transaction volume = more enterprise value potential. More GDP, total rake goes up of said economic activity they facilitate. Middleman Moat, accumulating volume (present via Paypal, future via OpenRouter).

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

#57
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Could someone explain why these routers are so valuable and pulling acquisitions in the billions?

I don’t understand it, but good for OpenRouter. Personally, I think OpenRouter’s value is somewhat perishable. In the early AI market where there are a jillion models and anew one every week, it’s great to be able to try them all without having to create accounts and keys for each one. OpenRouter, which I use, makes this easy for developers to do. Add some cost controls and other “management” knobs and it works great. But the market is not going to be this frothy forever. As things settle down and commoditize, the value of switching on a dime diminishes as people lock into their favorite models. And with the OpenAI and Anthropic APIs being defacto standards for how to talk to models, it’s easy enough to switch to another model every so often, as long as you aren’t doing it multiple times per week. The other alternative is that OpenRouter stays in the mix but its pricing gets ground down and down. If it’s (nearly) free and still adds some value, fine. But that doesn’t justify $7B. So, yea, I don’t get it from Stripe’s perspective.

Re: OpenRouter is joining Stripe

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post #43
post #2

Good for OpenRouter. They have a great DevEx. The $7 billion is tad high, but Stripe can afford it.

What's good about their DevEx?

I manage our company's model spend and build tools around it.

The good thing about the developer experience is that it is dead simple to create keys that are time-bound, model restricted, and have budgets against them in an easy, programmatic way (also in bulk). Costs are guaranteed to be on par or lower than any model provider, so it's an easy sell to the finance department.

To look at it from the other side, Gemini is the absolute worse when it comes to key management. The labyrinth of actions that one has to navigate to generate budgeted keys for a team is not worth it and I still haven't figured out how to manage the keys at a granularity I need.

OpenAI and Anthropic both have what I would consider to be middling DevEx. Most things work, but only on their platform, and there are some weirdnesses, like the fact that anthropic disabled its admin API key creation, so you can't programmatically create keys against a budget.

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