Live data from Hacker News

A joke domain purchase turned in geopolitical warfare

sprocketfox.io

51–60 of 194 posts

Re: A joke domain purchase turned in geopolitical warfare

#51

I've only read the first few paragraphs but I've noticed a narrative issue. I might be the only person to have this peeve, but when introducing a story to non technical and even technical readers, it's always clearer to introduce which website is not theirs and which website is theirs. It's written in a 3rd person perspective that doesn't take ownership of the websites. "Only Melbourne and Adelaide radiosondes (the t…

I think the author isn't a native English speaker? Either that or the writing is just a bit confusing at times, a lot of sentence fragments.

> We poke their website to see - sure enough they are - an angry email to them.

In general it was easy enough to understand the stories, though

Re: A joke domain purchase turned in geopolitical warfare

#52

Dude , were you actually able to find the balloon though ?

One of the fun things on sondehub is you can provide live location data on yourself going to pick up the balloon. And report whether or not you were successful so others don't try to collect those already claimed

Re: A joke domain purchase turned in geopolitical warfare

#54
post #15

In the UK a few decades ago, if you found a radiosonde from a weather balloon, it would have instructions on how to claim a recovery fee if you returned it for reuse. Sadly I never found one, but I knew this because my dad was a geophysicist and we lived at the time on a Scottish island which was one of the UK's launch spots. Looks like the recovery fee was stopped a long time ago, when the devices became cheap enoug…

reminds me of keys/badges with "drop in any mailbox" instructions that recover them.

Re: A joke domain purchase turned in geopolitical warfare

#55
Back in the late 2000s when I was just becoming an adult, but still talking to people younger than me on the web, I knew this kid who was maybe 16, he bought a very offensive domain, we were big on 4chan shenanigans (I'll let you imagine the worst thing). I had to intervene when I realized and point out to him, that his first and last name can be looked up by anyone, anywhere, and his address. He started to panic and I forget what we even did, but I think I immediately told him to just change the first and last to literally anything else, find a valid plausible address and adjust it, and just basically abandon the account as soon as possible. Been quite a while since I ever spoke to them, hope they learned their lesson.

The dumb careless things that teens do on the web.

Re: A joke domain purchase turned in geopolitical warfare

#56
post #51

I've only read the first few paragraphs but I've noticed a narrative issue. I might be the only person to have this peeve, but when introducing a story to non technical and even technical readers, it's always clearer to introduce which website is not theirs and which website is theirs. It's written in a 3rd person perspective that doesn't take ownership of the websites. "Only Melbourne and Adelaide radiosondes (the t…

I think the author isn't a native English speaker? Either that or the writing is just a bit confusing at times, a lot of sentence fragments. > We poke their website to see - sure enough they are - an angry email to them. In general it was easy enough to understand the stories, though

Right, it's a small little intro that goes a long way.

I checked the habhub website and found this blurb: "habhub is the home of high altitude ballooning tools developed by UKHAS, and the SondeHub team. The habitat database was retired in 2022, replaced by the SondeHub database and tracker."

This intro was also quite helpful, which I found on the Sondehub github page:

https://github.com/projecthorus/sondehub-amateur-tracker/wik...

"SondeHub started out in 2019 as a database and mapping system for tracking meteorological radiosondes. It's hosted in Amazon Web Services, so it is scalable and reliable (though does cost more to run...). SondeHub is run by a small team lead by x, y and is currently funded through Patreon Sponsors and a grant from Amateur Radio Digital Communications. SondeHub handles many millions of radiosonde telemetry packets a day, with telemetry contributed by over 700 unique receiver stations."

I didn't include the names because it wasn't the purpose of the comment, just a nice way to introduce the story.

I understand that the habhhub shutdown is part of the story that they later reveal, and now folded into/adapted into Sondehub:

"HabHub, the Habitat database, and associated utilities have been hosted on a server donated by Nevis (name) since 2011. However, due to ongoing issues with server maintenance and rising power prices, continued hosting has become untenable. In addition to this, the software behind the Habitat servers has become extremely difficult to maintain, and a very large amount of work would be required to port it to a more modern operating system."

Re: A joke domain purchase turned in geopolitical warfare

#58
Yeah back in 2022, I had just found my voice and developed a speaking style able to inspire understanding and articulate complex concerns down to simple concepts.

I used that to convey the idea that a certain spy agency was a terrorist group (by how they were operating) and were using accounts, with said very accounts visible in many of the instagram threads I was commenting in, being astro turf to sway certain opinions and do psyops on the American people. I got thousands of up votes and engagement.

Safe to say, I was naive, and it was terrifying to have them follow up and send investigators into private and public spaces. I had terror follow me from this time but I'm alive so glad that I wasn't enough of a threat to exterminate. Suppose I can thank either this was entirely made-up, or I was cautious enough after this incident (though I keep making the embarrassing mistake of sharing posts like this on hacker news and getting the occasional "You're crazy" accusation and ad hominem style credibility attacks). Who knows what really happened. I can't dismiss the possibility as 0%.

Edit: Thing is when you have an expert who's job it is to act sane and credible, operating to remain in stealth and hide their behavior, any accusation to call them out as so is met with a rational response to call out the veil-piercing observations as incredulous. And who's going to spy on the spy, would you look to gather evidence and record your interactions, send in a spy tape recorder, etc lol.

Re: A joke domain purchase turned in geopolitical warfare

#60

> Meanwhile (and you might have noticed me asking for AWS help on fedi) we contacted AWS as the source IP was from an AWS network. It was very important however to make sure the AWS support did not shutdown access. I'm legitimately impressed that whoever got that ticket on AWS side actually followed through and was able to divert from their script...

When AWS suspects malicious usage in my experience they usually ask before shutting you down.

The company I work at got one of these emails from AWS. We had a bug which caused us to hit a 3rd party API much more than we should have, and the service provider reported us to AWS for attempted DDoS. AWS just asked us to give our side of the story. I'm sure that being a large (but not enterprise) customer gives us some leeway, but I've also heard similar things from hobbyists.

There are exceptions if you are a fairly new account, or if you operate in certain low reputation regions. Specifically I have heard regions in Africa tend to get the "shoot first ask questions later" treatment from AWS Support.

However, all of this was before 2026 (when AWS Support seems to have 100% turned over to AI). For all I know their actions might look completely different now.

Post reply on HN