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Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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> Hamas isn't Gazans. Hamas is the democratically elected government of Gaza and retains a high level of support amongst the population. The population could put more pressure on Hamas to disarm but so far it has been fairly minimal. > Israel's main strategy until recently appeared to be to maximise suffering to force displacement. Israel's strategy before October 7th was one of containment, but that clearly failed s…

I'm struggling to work out if you actually believe this, which seems unlikely, or if it's just a plausible facade.

> I'm struggling to work out if you actually believe this, which seems unlikely, or if it's just a plausible facade.

I think my positions/views are fairly middle of the road/moderate when it comes to the conflict.

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At least 34, by the IDF's own admission: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

I see all you've got from the past 60 years is one tragic friendly fire incident. Iran has intentionally killed thousands of American civilians and service men either directly or through its proxies since 1979, including 43 American civilians murdered and 13 taken hostage on October 7, 2023.

Israeli lobby sent those US soldiers to the Mid East in the first place. It's not the early 2000s anymore, American public isn't buying the WMDs excuse again.

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Post from an exec of that group, Trita Parsi: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tritaparsi_this-image-was-sen... I don't take any issue with this pic if it's real, but it seems either fake or not from where he claims. So it's hard to take that org seriously. And yeah tbh that last name makes me take a second look.

What makes you think it's fake or implausible? I'd 100% scribble things like that if I was a bored serviceman in the Middle East.

The plane's proportions look out of whack in the photo. I don't think the scribbling is implausible, but either way it's strange for an exec of an org like that to be posting unverified stuff like that.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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At least 34, by the IDF's own admission: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

I see all you've got from the past 60 years is one tragic friendly fire incident. Iran has intentionally killed thousands of American civilians and service men either directly or through its proxies since 1979, including 43 American civilians murdered and 13 taken hostage on October 7, 2023.

America was first to torture, take hostage and kill thousands of Iranian civilians through the CIA and SAVAK. I understand completely why Iranians despise Israel and America.

Why do you expect me to get angry at Iranians for using American tactics? Is turnabout not fair play, am I supposed to support it when the US and Israel tortures people but balk when Iran does it?

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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There are uncensored interviews of former CIA agents conducted by credible reporters like Seymour Hersh. In The Samson Option , several witnesses confirm that Israel had unprecedented access to US spy satellites and convinced the CIA to cover up the (extremely controversial) Dimona facility. Both of those "favors" are beyond anything that most US allies received at the time, especially at Israel's size. Even America'…

« Even America's closest postwar allies like the UK, Sweden and Japan did not get that type of diplomatic cover, it was exclusive to Israel.« wasn’t echelon a joint collaboration between the US and the UK ?

The earliest incarnations of ECHELON, to my knowledge, were relatively siloed and not comparable to Israel's intelligence status at the time. FIVE EYES did not include de-facto nuclear coverups, satellite downlink control or a physical presence within CIA offices and the Pentagon.

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> The sheer volume of comments make it super obvious... Does it though? Remember that the Global South outnumbers the west in terms of population. And the west isn't really as politically popular as westerners like to believe: - Why do some people support Russia's war in Ukraine? - https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/81254/why-do-so... - Why isn't the Global South pro-Israel like the West? - https://politics…

The weirdness is how quickly and randomly those comments show up. Back when I used Reddit, I could mention some sensitive topic in a random place and there'd instantly be what I think are bots voting and commenting on it, sometimes huge comments with tons of links that looked canned.

Also it's possible those are from some insanely online people possibly running brigaiding groups on Discord, but that's not much better. It's best to be away from that. Let them "win" their online arguments against each other.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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> It was absolutely an ethnic cleansing Sure, but it wasn't just one side losing homes. > the killing never stopped There never was a final peace deal and only Israel ever made concrete final settlement offers.

> Sure, but it wasn't just one side losing homes. Yes, actually it was. > There never was a final peace deal and only Israel ever made concrete final settlement offers. 80 years of ethnic cleansing is genocide.

> Yes, actually it was.

Are you claiming no Jews had to leave their homes? That's just not factually accurate.

> 80 years of ethnic cleansing is genocide.

Ethnic cleansing does not turn into genocide just because some years have passed.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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I get where you are going at, but in the conflict we talk about I am pretty sure both sides are killing children right now. So still complicated. So is the US bombing children in Iran and many other countries in the past years. Is the US the pure evil now? Maybe, but I don't claim to have a final opinion there either

It's not that complicated. 123 died in Iran School bombing event. At least 21,600 Gazan children have died since the beginning of the war [UNICEF] in many events over a long period of time. 21,600 > 123 (Both involved US tax dollars)

Puhh those numbers are sooooo much higher in reality. Just abrubtly defunding USAID alone killed over 600,000+ people two thirds children.

https://archive.ph/Im0GE

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well then, maybe we should ask ourself why the hate! both against the propaganda (that everybody does, even if it's a very poor claim to say they all do it why hate us) and against the bomb to the ground war and genocidal violence happening. Why the hate against this if everybody else does it? and everybody else does it is a decent argument? Maybe we could do war without killing all civilians and razing cities to the…

I'm not sure what "we" or "our" is referring to here.

I'm not sure why this is pointed out
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