Children's stunted lungs show recovery in ultra low emission zone

Post by denismenace » Wed, Aug 19, 2026, 4:47 PM UTC

throw310822 wrote: post #191

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The lifetime risk is approximately 1.3% for women and 1.8% for men. For regular smokers: 11.2% for women and 14.8% for men. So about 15 to 30 more likely to get lung cancer. Bringing that down to 4x is close to "almost the same".

Might be that I am not reading probabilities correctly, but how do 1.3% -> 11.2% and 1.8% -> 15% become "15 to 30 times more likely"? Sounds like less then ten times?

Post by rozab » Wed, Aug 19, 2026, 4:50 PM UTC

matsemann wrote: post #215

I grew up in a small town in the mountains in Norway. There is a children's "hospital" there (Geilomo Barnesykehus), where kids come to live because they can't live in the cities. Kids with severe asthma, eczema and some other conditions. It started as far back as the 1930s, still unfortunately a problem so kids have to come live there away from their families.

Post by citrin_ru » Wed, Aug 19, 2026, 5:00 PM UTC

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Conservatives flipped on multiple of their policies after Reform's success on local election in 2025 and started to copy Reform UK. Even the Labour shifter right after 2025.

How's Reform UK Ltd. done since then? They've lost 2 by-elections and beaten a bin. Sterling job I guess if you listen to any of their members.

Post by simonsquiff » Wed, Aug 19, 2026, 5:06 PM UTC

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100%, and not just due to no emissions / minimal break dust. The noise reduction is a massive dividend. I used to live in london 10+ years ago, and when I come back I’m stunned by the noise difference, it really is so much quieter especially in central london. EVs everywhere especially replacing the horribly noisy diesel black cabs and buses. Very noticeably different and much more pleasant, and improving all the tim…

Noise reduction benefit is marginal. Most of the noise comes from tires rather than the engine. At 30 km/h tires are louder than the engine, so an EV driving at 50 km/h, which is the typical city speed limit, isn't any quieter than an ICE car.

Post by OroPla » Wed, Aug 19, 2026, 5:20 PM UTC

mrob wrote: post #238

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If you only use 99% it means there are small particles you can't catch. Being faster is meaningless if you can never clean the air. Air purifiers are designed to run 24/7 and all they do is catch particles. Eventually all the particles will be caught. The one I got also detects if there is a lot of particles and will spin faster accordingly.

>If you only use 99% it means there are small particles you can't catch. Air filters don't work like sieves. The smallest particles are easier to block than the mid-sized particles. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_filter_(respirator) Clean Air Delivery Rate is often specified for specific pollutants. One is smoke, which is mostly small particles.