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Moderna reports first positive Phase 3 for mRNA neoantigen therapy in melanoma

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Re: Moderna reports first positive Phase 3 for mRNA neoantigen therapy in melanoma

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In other news, your barber thinks you need a haircut. Until there is a proven net overall health benefit to this therapy, I wouldn't waste much ink on it. Also, can someone please tell me how one controls the dose for an mRNA therapy ?

If you actually had melanoma (a very aggressive type of skin cancer) you would be glad for one more chance of maybe still being alive a few years from now.

not if you dropped dead from a heart attack after your therapy. Are you familiar with vioxx ? https://www.npr.org/2007/11/10/5470430/timeline-the-rise-and...

Re: Moderna reports first positive Phase 3 for mRNA neoantigen therapy in melanoma

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People were assured that COVID vaccine mRNA would disappear within days and the spike protein would short-lived. Yet Yale-led researchers later detected circulating S1 and full-length spike as late as 709 days after vaccination. They also left the public in the dark about the risk of vaccine-associated myocarditis, especially in young males, many of whom experienced permanent heart tissue damage. That is a massive ga…

> People were assured that COVID vaccine mRNA would disappear within days and the spike protein would short-lived which is still the case, even in the Yale study. > That is a massive gap between what the public was told and what later evidence found. there is an even larger gap between basic epidemiology and what the public understands. Hard science is difficult to communicate on a good day, on a global pandemic with…

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Re: Moderna reports first positive Phase 3 for mRNA neoantigen therapy in melanoma

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> People were assured that COVID vaccine mRNA would disappear within days and the spike protein would short-lived which is still the case, even in the Yale study. > That is a massive gap between what the public was told and what later evidence found. there is an even larger gap between basic epidemiology and what the public understands. Hard science is difficult to communicate on a good day, on a global pandemic with…

+1 the public health apparatuses' actual statements were impressively correct even if you don't account for the underlying uncertainty at the time. Where public health officials "failed" was not having a megaphone loud enough to drown out the game of telephone that most people (as these comment threads consistently show) were actually hearing information through. Simplest example: People will say that public health o…

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Re: Moderna reports first positive Phase 3 for mRNA neoantigen therapy in melanoma

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Saving a couple million people in the pandemic wasn’t validation enough?

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That's just spreading ignorance.

> The incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients exposed to mRNA COVID-19 vaccines was lower than in those who were not vaccinated

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38262150/

Re: Moderna reports first positive Phase 3 for mRNA neoantigen therapy in melanoma

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Except that your children are still vectors for getting others sick. Vaccines are there not just for you but your community.

Vaccines that have a large impact on transmission and infection are there not just for you but for your community. The covid shots were good against hospitalization and death in older folks, but they were not great at preventing infection or transmission (despite what you may have gleaned from the speakers blaring ads in every public setting for all that time). You can fall back to the "flooding the hospitals" argume…

You're misinterpreting data here. You are conflating the fact that the clinical trials didn't measure infection/transmission (which is very hard to do in a clinical trial) with the distinct claim that they didn't reduce transmission in reality.

The vaccines were extremely effective at reducing transmission during the first waves of COVID, where such an intervention was most valuable. And due to viral growth dynamics, even small reductions in transmission yield big net outcomes.

50% - 70% reduction in transmission: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116597

Later waves made the vaccine much less effective at reducing transmission, but still highly effective at reducing hospital utilization which is (despite your snarky aside), extremely valuable. Fatality rates doubled when ERs hit full capacity.

Re: Moderna reports first positive Phase 3 for mRNA neoantigen therapy in melanoma

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Saving a couple million people in the pandemic wasn’t validation enough?

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Couple million myocarditis? Do you have a reputable source for that (sorry, RFK Jr doesn’t count)

Re: Moderna reports first positive Phase 3 for mRNA neoantigen therapy in melanoma

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+1 the public health apparatuses' actual statements were impressively correct even if you don't account for the underlying uncertainty at the time. Where public health officials "failed" was not having a megaphone loud enough to drown out the game of telephone that most people (as these comment threads consistently show) were actually hearing information through. Simplest example: People will say that public health o…

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Take it from someone who has read all of said emails: no, they don't prove that.

Re: Moderna reports first positive Phase 3 for mRNA neoantigen therapy in melanoma

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This is great news! I think people forget how anti-skin cancer protocols even as simple as applying suntan lotion weren't as popular as recent as 50-60 years ago. Lots of "sun children" of the 50s and 60s are now feeling the repercussions of only applying baby oil and are getting hit with lots of melanoma.

What’s funny is before the 50s and 60s everyone knew you should cover up and women wore bonnets. That too much sun was bad for you.

Laura Ingalls Wilder of Little House fame (I mention this a lot as I read these to my children as an adult, and they’re a fascinating look at 1880s America) has lots of places where her mother says “put on your bonnet! Don’t get too much sun!”. We act like people in the past were ignorant but people in the 50s and 60s were just a very special type of arrogant, all of Chesterton’s fences were torn down during that time period.

Re: Moderna reports first positive Phase 3 for mRNA neoantigen therapy in melanoma

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Saving a couple million people in the pandemic wasn’t validation enough?

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Would love to see a source for this, but I'm assuming you don't have one and are just spreading FUD due to your political beliefs...

Closest thing I could find was a little over 15,000 people in Europe who got myocarditis (also includes pericarditis: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10746454/). Out of millions (hundreds of millions?) that received the vaccine. Please stop doing what your doing. It's pretty shit.

Re: Moderna reports first positive Phase 3 for mRNA neoantigen therapy in melanoma

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Why?

People were assured that COVID vaccine mRNA would disappear within days and the spike protein would short-lived. Yet Yale-led researchers later detected circulating S1 and full-length spike as late as 709 days after vaccination. They also left the public in the dark about the risk of vaccine-associated myocarditis, especially in young males, many of whom experienced permanent heart tissue damage. That is a massive ga…

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