Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

grapheneos.social

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

131–140 of 444 posts

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

#131

Post by georgeecollins »

terribleperson wrote: post #66
tfrancisl wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's stopping me from using a browser to log in to my bank? Assuming my bank is one of the ones that requires you to lock down sideloading (they aren't, but i know many are).

I had to replace a credit card yesterday. Part of the default flow involves the call center sending a notification to your app. When I told them my android version was too old, it took them twenty minutes to find out they could instead send a text message. That text message sends you to a photo-and-id verification service, but that's another issue. Soon, there won't even be an alternative flow. There are a lot of pla…

Are you sure? This seems like a forum with a lot of early adopters and a lot of late adopters still use browsers, email, text messages. Like, let me guess that your credit cars isn't capitol one. Not that it should be, but that would be more "normie".

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

#132

Post by newswasboring »

afiori wrote: post #97
steve_taylor wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a cheap way to get my hands on some floppies.

you are right a stack of printed qr codes is better

That's too convenient, cameras can read many qr codes at a time. Encode the binary on some punch cards.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

#133

Post by jauntywundrkind »

Anyone want to place bets in whether this will be an unlockable bootloader, or some GrapheneOS only install path?

Sure would be nice to have phones that can be rooted, or OS replaced. I've been hopeful this would perhaps enable that, but I fret my excitement may be premature.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

#134

Post by throwaway_94383 »

inigyou wrote: post #36
tfrancisl wrote: post #25

I've never really understood why we chase Android-alikes on mobile platforms instead of trying to build on mainstream Linux. I know some folks in the nix community (nix-on-droid and other projects) have tried to bring us closer to this, but projects like Graphene seem to have a lot of traction.

All the existing apps are on Android and iOS. Graphene lets you run them. You can't have a bank account on a Linux phone* because they won't let you, but you can on Android including on Graphene. * before replying snarkily that Android is Linux, please take a long walk off a short pier, thanks

[flagged]

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

#136

Post by imthatsteve »

realusername wrote: post #94
nextaccountic wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about running the whole Android infrastructure, but on top of a non-Android Linux distro? And this, on top of a Android kernel (otherwise you won't have the drivers yo uneed) The advantage being, we can manage packages using a regular Linux distro

You can't because a lot of apps check that the phone is controlled by Google with Play Integrity. Google thought about this, don't worry. They learned their lesson after CyanogenMod tried to compete by offering an alternative. Non-Google Android are now dead except in China.

CyanogenMod became LineageOS and its still going strong, im typing this on an unofficial lineageOS build right now.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

#137

Post by BLKNSLVR »

dwedge wrote: post #18
m00dy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

I ran Graphene without a Sim card for 2 months and as soon as I added a Sim card (with of course, difficult to vet networking) the phone is always hot and the battery life reduced by half. Might be a coincidence but also made me rethink how I feel about Graphene

My 9a running GrapheneOS doesn't get hot and battery life seems no different to other phones I've had the last few years.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

#138

Post by imkac »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #72
inigyou wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the existing apps are on Android and iOS. Graphene lets you run them. You can't have a bank account on a Linux phone* because they won't let you, but you can on Android including on Graphene. * before replying snarkily that Android is Linux, please take a long walk off a short pier, thanks

> All the existing apps are on Android and iOS. Graphene lets you run them. We have waydroid for that. > You can't have a bank account on a Linux phone* because they won't let you, but you can on Android including on Graphene. Unless of course it uses those stupid integrity apis to block anything that isn't stock.

Porting traditional Linux desktop distributions to Android devices is meaningless, all you get is more instability, more unsafe and more trouble. Waydroid is a bad implementation on security and compatibility, just running Android in VM is better.

Re: Devices with GrapheneOS support should be available in 2027

#139

Post by justsomehnguy »

tfrancisl wrote: post #45
inigyou wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the existing apps are on Android and iOS. Graphene lets you run them. You can't have a bank account on a Linux phone* because they won't let you, but you can on Android including on Graphene. * before replying snarkily that Android is Linux, please take a long walk off a short pier, thanks

What's stopping me from using a browser to log in to my bank? Assuming my bank is one of the ones that requires you to lock down sideloading (they aren't, but i know many are).

The bank itself. They want to see where are you, what you do and snoop on anything they can about you. Having a spywa^W sorry, bank app is the best way to do that.

Source: my bank which recently 'upgraded' a browser version to a glorified SPA which even renders as a vertical oriented app on a landscape 4K monitor.

Post reply on HN