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A 3D fruit fly on macOS desktop powered by the real FlyWire connectome

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Re: A 3D fruit fly on macOS desktop powered by the real FlyWire connectome

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Post by yawpitch »

inigyou wrote: post #131
ludvigk wrote: post #129

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How small should my circle of empathy be? Obviously humans are included, or ...?

Only shareholder bank accounts and your own.

You’re clearly not a top-level CEO; keep pruning.

Re: A 3D fruit fly on macOS desktop powered by the real FlyWire connectome

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Post by ACCount37 »

invalidusernam3 wrote: post #100
sgt wrote: post #77

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Are you seriously suggesting that we should have empathy for ... fruit flies? Speechless

Why would you choose not to have empathy for a living creature?

"A living creature" is a low fucking bar.

Bacteria are living creatures. And your body is wired to exterminate them so that they don't eat it alive from the inside. Because the moment those defenses falter, they will do exactly that.

Consider saving your empathy for things that matter.

Re: A 3D fruit fly on macOS desktop powered by the real FlyWire connectome

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Post by logicallee »

spuz wrote: post #106
logicallee wrote: post #54

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I can't imagine why people hate my comment so much (4 downvotes), when I linked an existing fruitfly project I already did, and Claude is working on what I wrote now, just as I wrote. Maybe people thought I was being sarcastic when I wrote "A connectome is like a full brain scan!" but I wrote that since maybe not everyone knows what a connectome means.

I didn't downvote it but I imagine it's because your comment comes across as manic rambling. You managed to say "it will run in the browser" three times - once is enough. I'd recommend writing out your entire comment then deleting it an rewriting it to be more concise. No we don't expect literature in HN comments but good writing is a courtesy to your readers.

Thanks for the feedback. Claude has built the portions I've mentioned, it works. I'll publish the site shortly.

Re: A 3D fruit fly on macOS desktop powered by the real FlyWire connectome

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Post by yawpitch »

marliechiller wrote: post #127
yawpitch wrote: post #119

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You tell me where the consumption of dairy products must result in harm to the cow. I grew up around small-scale, subsistence-level dairy farming, it doesn’t inherently require any more suffering than either egg-harvesting or apple-growing inherently do. A Jain doesn’t have to purchase milk from a factory farmer. And AFAIK even the most stringent vegans don’t brush insects from their path with every step, or avoid on…

1. Artificial insemination without consent 2. Birth and all of its pain and potential complications 3. Removal of offspring as early as possible to repeat steps 1 and 2 and so prolong lactation 4. Mastitis All of these result in suffering much worse than egg harvesting imo. Reluctant dairy eater btw

1 is unnecessary and wasn’t present for most of history, 2 is a natural consequence of cattle being cattle, even without humans, but today we have both painkillers and bovine veterinarians, 3 is, again, not strictly necessary unless you’ve made the mistake of falling for the profit motive, and 4 is much more of a problem from a calves mouth parts than from a suitably gloved and balmed human hand.

Human beings can engage in subsistence-level dairy consumption without causing suffering beyond that already present in the reproduction cycle of cattle. They choose not to. I never said dairy farmers were or would choose to be moral, just that they aren’t required to be immoral by dairy production itself.

Re: A 3D fruit fly on macOS desktop powered by the real FlyWire connectome

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Post by ktm5j »

marliechiller wrote: post #128
shaky-carrousel wrote: post #102

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Because lice are also living creatures. And I have no empathy for them, and hopefully never will.

Lice have no choice in their lot in the universe. Do you think if they had intelligence the ability to choose their lot that they would choose their current one again? I doubt it personally. You can detest their mode of existence whilst still having empathy for them I think

Why would you have empathy for something that is literally incapable of things like empathy. Or any kind of emotion or thought. This is ridiculous guys, you might as well have empathy for a rock.

Re: A 3D fruit fly on macOS desktop powered by the real FlyWire connectome

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Post by logicallee »

inigyou wrote: post #136
logicallee wrote: post #14

This is absolutely astounding. What an implementation. A connectome is like a full brain scan! I am asking Claude to port this to the browser and I'll host it, so you can try it without installing anything. Some details about the port: Claude is able to do porting tasks like this. I'll put up a link when you can try it in your browser. I was able to get it to port the complete BitNet b1.58 2-billion parameter model s…

Just send me the prompt

okay, this is the prompt: https://pastebin.com/hhfmEYfG

it works, it one-shotted everything from just the one prompt.

you may also find this chat excerpt relevant: https://pastebin.com/F3Qwy2Ly to understand why I put that stuff at the end to motivate it to complete this very difficult port.

Re: A 3D fruit fly on macOS desktop powered by the real FlyWire connectome

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Post by logicallee »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #109
logicallee wrote: post #57

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I've ported it to the browser and connected a squash functionality behind an ethical guardrail (you have to lift a cover to engage this functionality). need to iterate on the ui but will share it soon. you can squash the bug and cause it real pain. it also sees you if you turn your camera on and reacts to your movements. this is all wired up and I'll post it shortly.

I can’t tell if you’re a talented comedian - or if you should be assessed for sociopathy.

the pain is momentary and behind a guardrail.

Re: A 3D fruit fly on macOS desktop powered by the real FlyWire connectome

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Post by jachee »

ivell wrote: post #82
yawpitch wrote: post #72

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If your circle of empathy doesn’t include fruit flies, endeavor to expand your circular of empathy until it does. Goto 0.

With this code, the only things we can eat would be fruits where we diligently plant its seeds (plants are also living things and fruits are the offerings in return we should sow its seeds) :-)

“We’re sorry, Carol.”
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