I think this submission should be merged with this much older one since they link to the same post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49348079
The Mojo language (by Modular, now Qualcomm) is now open-source
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Re: The Mojo language (by Modular, now Qualcomm) is now open-source
#32I'm glad that it's open source now and they are supporting a lot more hardware. There are some interesting features that I hope the language design community pays attention to. It's built on top of MLIR so you can make compiler optimizations in a library instead of the compiler. I believe Reactant.jl has been using MLIR for optimizing higher level abstractions in Julia. Imagine a Lisp with that capability.
Indeed Reactant looks like a young, fantastic piece of technology.
Re: The Mojo language (by Modular, now Qualcomm) is now open-source
#33They made a big mistake by not open sourcing before, doubt they'll ever gain traction now.
Their goal was to get bought. Now it doesn’t matter whether they get traction, they already made a billion dollars.
Re: The Mojo language (by Modular, now Qualcomm) is now open-source
#34Finally! I have been waiting for this for years. Mojo has great potential. I would use it for everything if it was for me
Re: The Mojo language (by Modular, now Qualcomm) is now open-source
#35I'm waiting for Phase 2[1]: especially "Algebraic data types & pattern matching". Current tagged union[2] use is pretty awkward/verbose and lacks exhaustiveness checking and typed error handling.
Re: The Mojo language (by Modular, now Qualcomm) is now open-source
#36The actual blog post on open-sourcing: https://www.modular.com/blog/mojo-open-source I remember being really interested a few years ago when it was billed as a superset of Python. I know they pivoted away from that, but I might play with it now that the compiler is also open source.
I am much more interested in it now that it is not a subset of Python. That felt like something which would hold it back and seems like they agreed.
Re: The Mojo language (by Modular, now Qualcomm) is now open-source
#37I guess they want to go after CUDA for their GPU lines. Now give us the hardware.
Re: The Mojo language (by Modular, now Qualcomm) is now open-source
#38I'm glad that it's open source now and they are supporting a lot more hardware. There are some interesting features that I hope the language design community pays attention to. It's built on top of MLIR so you can make compiler optimizations in a library instead of the compiler. I believe Reactant.jl has been using MLIR for optimizing higher level abstractions in Julia. Imagine a Lisp with that capability.
Julia is a Lisp, just like Dylan or Lisp 2.
Many Lisps have that capability.
Re: The Mojo language (by Modular, now Qualcomm) is now open-source
#39Summarized here: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Modular-Mojo-Open-Source This is by Chris Lattner, known for LLVM and Swift.
Also Swift for Tensorflow, lets not ignore that effort as well.
Re: The Mojo language (by Modular, now Qualcomm) is now open-source
#40I would add quick note to this as title is misleading
* It was partially open-sourced before this. There were a lot of cool things they open sourced before like MAX for large scale LLM serving which was outperforming VLLM, Dynamo, etc on a lot of models. (super valuable GPU kernels). This is why Qualcomm acquire them imo.
* Chris (also created swift) talked in the past the reason for not fully open-sourcing was more because he wanted to get all the core design decisions right. He said this was a big thing Swift got wrong as it scaled too quickly being fully open source at the beginning.
Mojo is an awesome language, I've used it a lot as a Swift/Python lover. A couple things though
* If you want to understand Mojo spend 10x the time in MLIR before. It's just a fancy MLIR wrapper (good thing)
* They still haven't lived up to the python "superset" promise and that's the big thing preventing bigger adoption.
* https://www.spheron.network/blog/modular-max-mojo-gpu-cloud-...