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Man who hacked Scarlett Johansson's e-mail sentenced to 10 years

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Re: Man who hacked Scarlett Johansson's e-mail sentenced to 10 years

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Poor bastard. He did something that is unquestionably highly unethical and illegal, but he was also an awkward, messed-up nerdy guy who arguably just needed some real friends and a chance. http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201205/chris-chan...

Wait, can't the same argument be applied to certain sociopaths?

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Re: Man who hacked Scarlett Johansson's e-mail sentenced to 10 years

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post #9

Poor bastard. He did something that is unquestionably highly unethical and illegal, but he was also an awkward, messed-up nerdy guy who arguably just needed some real friends and a chance. http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201205/chris-chan...

Wait, can't the same argument be applied to certain sociopaths?

Are you implying that sociopaths should just be thrown in prison and left to rot?

Does anyone in the US pretend that prison should be rehabilitative? I'm sure that this guy serving 10 years in prison is going to be a net-positive for our society. /not

Re: Man who hacked Scarlett Johansson's e-mail sentenced to 10 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't he also publicly release nude photos of her and three other women? Still maybe a bit extreme on the sentence, but it wasn't just "reading e-mail".

Exactly. It's the kind of thing that for a large portion of the internet seems to be OK if it's celebrities and not OK if it's your girlfriend. I cannot comprehend how people think what he did is OK. (note that I'm not arguing about the harshness of the sentence, or how it compares to each and every other sentence for each and every other crime. I'm just saying that what he did is not remotely OK ).

People aren't saying that what he did was OK. They're saying that a 10-year sentence is overkill.

Re: Man who hacked Scarlett Johansson's e-mail sentenced to 10 years

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't he also publicly release nude photos of her and three other women? Still maybe a bit extreme on the sentence, but it wasn't just "reading e-mail".

Exactly. It's the kind of thing that for a large portion of the internet seems to be OK if it's celebrities and not OK if it's your girlfriend. I cannot comprehend how people think what he did is OK. (note that I'm not arguing about the harshness of the sentence, or how it compares to each and every other sentence for each and every other crime. I'm just saying that what he did is not remotely OK ).

>note that I'm not arguing about the harshness of the sentence

Yes you are -- albeit implicitly. You're arguing against a straw man that takes the extreme position that what he did was "OK". Very few people here (and certainly not "a large portion of the internet") believe that. Even the post that triggered this discussion didn't call his actions "OK", even though richforrester understated the severity of the "hacker"'s actions.

Re: Man who hacked Scarlett Johansson's e-mail sentenced to 10 years

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Now when we discuss the legality of NSA having wide open access to citizen emails and other personal data, we'll have a good reference point on what happens when regular people do it.

I wonder which pays better, being a fall guy for News Corp or the NSA... either way, I'm sure it'll just mean one less salary to turn over at the end of the year.

Re: Man who hacked Scarlett Johansson's e-mail sentenced to 10 years

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't he also publicly release nude photos of her and three other women? Still maybe a bit extreme on the sentence, but it wasn't just "reading e-mail".

Yes he did. There is a strange cognitive dissonance between email and regular mail. If someone broke into an apartment lobby, picked the lock on the mailboxes, took out a set of film prints [1] from the drug store, made copies of the 'private and personal' pictures contained therein and then shared them with their friends for prurient reasons, what sort of punishment is deserved there? The "virtual" nature of email m…

If someone broke into an apartment lobby

Do you really face 10yrs for breaking into a hollywood apartment and releasing nude tapes you found?

I can see him going to a jail for a while, but 10 years is an awful long time for a crime that very likely didn't leave permanent damage of any kind (psychological, physical or otherwise).

Re: Man who hacked Scarlett Johansson's e-mail sentenced to 10 years

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10 years seems a bit steep. Wonder what Scarlett thinks of this; someone read her email, and is now in jail for 10 years.

Didn't he also publicly release nude photos of her and three other women? Still maybe a bit extreme on the sentence, but it wasn't just "reading e-mail".

There are entire websites dedicated to releasing nude photos of women without their permission. The only difference in this case is that these photos happened to feature wealthy celebrities; their media backers, as part of the effort to exploit these actresses, are calling in favors from powerful friends in the government. This is not an issue of invasions of privacy, it is a matter of the rich and powerful once again having the government serve them, while everyone else gets trampled.
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