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Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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The resistance you're talking about only works if like 3% of the population take to the streets. Once you see police officers marching with protesters that's when they'll start to listen. That's only ever happened once. It'll only happen again if a large number of american kids (tens or hundreds of thousands) are dying in foreign lands for years on end--i.e. not soon. That's why our leaders wage low intensity wars. T…

It all starts somewhere. Unless we, the people, actually rise and use our power to stop them, warrior narcissists will be lighting fires in perpetuity. >The oil crisis we're talking about here is knocking on our door right now. No amount of protesting is going to stop it. True, not until Americans start feeling the pinch for all the wars they have allowed to happen, in their name. No time like the present. Demand jus…

Don't get me wrong, I think yours is a good example. It's important for people to have an example to reference when they want to resist but don't know how to do it, or who to contact, or where to start. But I don't believe resistance will accomplish anything very meaningful anytime soon.

[edit] half baked thought: I wonder how the resistance phenomenon interacts with nuclear weapons. In all the prior wars in human history, as far as I am aware, there were small pacifist or anti-war movements. But only in the big post-nuclear great powers proxy conflict that happened in Vietnam was there a sufficiently large antiwar movement to actually accomplish something. I wonder if we humans can somehow subconsciously sniff out cowardice in our leadership. Nuclear weapons have made all nations cowards--nobody is willing to lay it all on the line and fight anymore because the consequences are too great. All that is to say, I wonder if we're all a hell of a lot more warlike and savage than we'd like to admit. I'm sure this is a well studied topic and I'm totally ignorant of the scholarship so someone please chime in and straighten this bullshit out :p

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Trump did actually make this proclamation today. It was a sarcastic comment.

A couple of years ago I made the observation that the West would start to copy what China is doing. Ofcourse its only wrong when China does it...

> A couple of years ago I made the observation that the West would start to copy what China is doing. Ofcourse its only wrong when China does it...

There's no point in seeing anything coming or being right about anything, because the vast majority of people will ridicule you and tell you you're wrong until well after it's too late to change the situation for the better. The tiny handful of us who actually care about a future are a microscopic minority and basically powerless to change it. Best to just live our lives the best we can and to hell with what the rest of the world is doing at this point.

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The resistance you're talking about only works if like 3% of the population take to the streets. Once you see police officers marching with protesters that's when they'll start to listen. That's only ever happened once. It'll only happen again if a large number of american kids (tens or hundreds of thousands) are dying in foreign lands for years on end--i.e. not soon. That's why our leaders wage low intensity wars. T…

It all starts somewhere. Unless we, the people, actually rise and use our power to stop them, warrior narcissists will be lighting fires in perpetuity. >The oil crisis we're talking about here is knocking on our door right now. No amount of protesting is going to stop it. True, not until Americans start feeling the pinch for all the wars they have allowed to happen, in their name. No time like the present. Demand jus…

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Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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You can't fuel an aircraft carrier from profits, if the oil runs out.

Hate to be that guy but aircraft carriers run on nuclear power. The jets on the other hand...

Every other surface ship in the task force, along with resupply vessels, also burns oil.

The US had nine nuclear cruisers, but retired the last one, the USS South Carolina in 1999.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear-powered_cruisers_of_th...>

Currently the US only operates nuclear-powered aircraft carriers (11 active, two under construction), and submarines (69 active).

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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post #51

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It all starts somewhere. Unless we, the people, actually rise and use our power to stop them, warrior narcissists will be lighting fires in perpetuity. >The oil crisis we're talking about here is knocking on our door right now. No amount of protesting is going to stop it. True, not until Americans start feeling the pinch for all the wars they have allowed to happen, in their name. No time like the present. Demand jus…

Don't get me wrong, I think yours is a good example. It's important for people to have an example to reference when they want to resist but don't know how to do it, or who to contact, or where to start. But I don't believe resistance will accomplish anything very meaningful anytime soon. [edit] half baked thought: I wonder how the resistance phenomenon interacts with nuclear weapons. In all the prior wars in human hi…

Our technological grasp has exceeded our societal capability to responsibly wield and direct it. This same situation was absolutely rife in philosophical circles around the world wars of the last century, (see Heidigger's writings on technology), and the stakes are only higher now.

We are now down the last generation to have eye witnessed and executed nuclear Holocaust. Their tapes are all that remain. The first generations to truly industrialize the process of bringing death (rise of the machine gun, poison gas, concentration camps, weaponization of aircraft and the flying machine), have likewise, left the experiential pool, leaving only their written, and otherwise recorded material behind which does a fat lot of good if no one can be arsed to actually read, watch, or be affected by these cautionary accounts.

Throw in the increasing centralization of wealth and power, the unchecked consolidation running rampant, and massive arbitrage of the third world to avoid paying for the externalities of our industrial bases, and the knock-on consequences arising from climate change and concomitant political destabilization, and the stage is set for some very, very bad times if we do not mature and get very damn serious, very quick.

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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This should help with transition to electric vehicles. On the other hand, batteries for EVs are produced in even smaller number of countries (mostly China) then oil is pumped (Middle east, US, Russia, Canada). https://www.iea.org/commentaries/global-battery-markets-are-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_extra...

Chinese companies also supply 15-20% of the world's fuel tanks for cars and more for heavy vehicles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAPP_Automotive_Systems . Funny how that's not a problem. Batteries. Are. Not. Oil. They are oil tanks.

"However, more than 90% of battery storage applications rely on LFP batteries that are almost exclusively supplied from China, which accounts for almost all global manufacturing capacity and the associated technical expertise. Korean producers are investing to scale up LFP battery production that can offer an alternative, but they face intense competition from established, lower-cost Chinese producers in an oversupplied market."

https://www.iea.org/commentaries/global-battery-markets-are-...

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

#57
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It all starts somewhere. Unless we, the people, actually rise and use our power to stop them, warrior narcissists will be lighting fires in perpetuity. >The oil crisis we're talking about here is knocking on our door right now. No amount of protesting is going to stop it. True, not until Americans start feeling the pinch for all the wars they have allowed to happen, in their name. No time like the present. Demand jus…

Don't get me wrong, I think yours is a good example. It's important for people to have an example to reference when they want to resist but don't know how to do it, or who to contact, or where to start. But I don't believe resistance will accomplish anything very meaningful anytime soon. [edit] half baked thought: I wonder how the resistance phenomenon interacts with nuclear weapons. In all the prior wars in human hi…

There are a few things we can do about the nuclear situation and the state-level cowardice you rightly identify.

We can start uncovering the secrets for how those nuclear weapons are being used against us. For example, nuclear blackmail is a very, very real situation in the West right now - there are states which are getting their way with human rights abuses at massive scale, because they threaten the nuclear option.

Which states? Under which conditions are the threats being made?

With resistance, we call for war crimes prosecutions for our own criminals. But we also address the state secrecy dilemma: the corruption of all governments begins with the secrets they keep. What are those secrets? Reveal them. Demand that there be no more “national security secrets” held like a sword of Damocles over the citizens’ heads - reveal them.

Resistance is not just protest. It is Wikileaks and Snowden and others. It is constant, non-stop, pressure on the ruling elite to have their crimes revealed and prosecuted. It is the Epstein prosecutions, actually happening. It is the pressure from the entire world - not just the local population - to have these secrets declassified and revealed, sordid details and all.

The nuclear threat is real. Who are making these threats, and what are their crimes?

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

#58

This should help with transition to electric vehicles. On the other hand, batteries for EVs are produced in even smaller number of countries (mostly China) then oil is pumped (Middle east, US, Russia, Canada). https://www.iea.org/commentaries/global-battery-markets-are-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_extra...

Can't be soon enough. I'm currently in a country with lots of old diesel vehicles from Western Europe. I was just walking to pick up my EV with HEPA filters from cleaning. The amount of fumes around street makes it unbearable to walk alongside road.

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Just like any war, ever. This is why we don’t start wars, kids.

That’s why we don’t vote for the fascist who attempted to coup its way to power

This is why you prosecute your own war criminals before falling in line, goosestep-wise behind them, to “go after those inferior cultures, over there”, you mean ..

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chinese companies also supply 15-20% of the world's fuel tanks for cars and more for heavy vehicles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAPP_Automotive_Systems . Funny how that's not a problem. Batteries. Are. Not. Oil. They are oil tanks.

"However, more than 90% of battery storage applications rely on LFP batteries that are almost exclusively supplied from China, which accounts for almost all global manufacturing capacity and the associated technical expertise. Korean producers are investing to scale up LFP battery production that can offer an alternative, but they face intense competition from established, lower-cost Chinese producers in an oversuppl…

Doesn't change anything. If oil stops flowing you're out of energy. If batteries stop flowing, you continue using the batteries you already have and your own manufacturing suddenly doesn't struggle to compete. We've already talked about this several times.
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