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Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Post by boxed »

diogenescynic wrote: post #455
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Life on earth today has objectively never been better in the history of our entire species. Try to retain some perspective.

By what metric? Houses, healthcare, cars, college... everything that matters is way more expensive for current generations when you compare to multiples of income or ounces of gold. We're working harder for less to show. Yes, there are FSD vehicles and rockets that can land and be re-used... but steak is up 30% from a year ago. In most ways, life is going in the wrong direction. The only thing getting 'better' for mo…

> By what metric? Houses, healthcare, cars, college... everything that matters is way more expensive for current generations when you compare to multiples of income or ounces of gold.

Check the price of food. Also, check what the price of a movie resolution film camera cost 20 years ago and realize that you're getting that in the price of your iPhone. Plus of course the corresponding computing power.

> but steak is up 30% from a year ago.

Well that is an extremely specific cherry pick.

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Post by jingpostmedia »

spystath wrote: post #336
nullbyte wrote: post #97

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CXMT is a memory fab that just opened in China. They achieved a 90% yield on DDR5. Hopefully that could ease up the supply squeeze.

It's very unlikely to have any meaningful effect. CXMT DRAM will also be hoovered up the moment it hits the market at the same inflated prices. Even if they had the capacity (they don't) why flood the market when you can just print money?

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Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Post by starbugs »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #440
diogenescynic wrote: post #438

Inflation, cost of living, purchasing power... I feel like life is getting really difficult right now for most people in ways it hasn't been in decades. I don't think memory prices going up this much this fast is good. I think it's a sign of how bad things are and that we are heading in a terrible direction. I think we're going to get a BIG wave of inflation in 2027.

Life on earth today has objectively never been better in the history of our entire species. Try to retain some perspective.

> Life on earth today has objectively never been better in the history of our entire species. Try to retain some perspective.

The typical relative privation argument trap

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Post by nilsbunger »

porkpieshoe wrote: post #480
zmmmmm wrote: post #463

I wonder if supply chain constraints currently represent an inherent scepticism of manufacturers that demand will last. It feels to me like a side effect of the self-dealing / incestuous financing that is going on is that manufacturers are not willing to bet on it all materialising and therefore are not scaling up capacity nearly as much as they would if they thought it was certain.

Counterpoint: I drove past TSMC in Surprise AZ and I counted at least 18 large construction cranes on that single site.

TSMC doesn’t make DRAM though. Their biz model is manufacturing complex logic chips (eg cpus and asics), which doesn’t have the same commodity cycle.

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Post by fsloth »

Panino wrote: post #125
preg_match wrote: post #87

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I think it's probably for the best, the hyperconsumerism around electronics was getting out of hand. Computers are fast and have been fast for a while now. An iPhone 12 is probably more than fine to do iPhone things, if Apple didn't sabotage their old phones with poorly-written poor-performance software.

> Computers are fast and have been fast for a while now. Absolutely. The only reason I want to upgrade to an iPhone 18 next year is because the 16 doesn't have MIE (Memory Integrity Enforcement) and it feels ridiculous to upgrade so quickly to the 17, which does have MIE. Same thing with a Neo 2. But mostly I buy surplus gear. I've saved a small fortune this way and 8% compounding returns (VT and chill) will help me…

Personally I have zero reasons to upgrade from IPhone 13 until the software stops working. I hope it will last me several years more. Beautiful hardware.

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

Pxtl wrote: post #453
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #440

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Life on earth today has objectively never been better in the history of our entire species. Try to retain some perspective.

On a macro level you're correct. On a micro level, I miss the pre-pandemic, pre-AI era before stuff got expensive, before Russia invaded Ukraine, before the Israel/Palestine strife went into overdrive, and before the US declared war on Iran, Canada, Greenland, and Minnesota.

Almost everything that is upsetting is you, is being intentionally shoved in front of your face to make you feel mad. You are being played.

Your great-grandparents had like a 40% child mortality rate. You’ll be ok that some people around the world are fighting which has been a human constant throughout all of history.

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Post by UberFly »

zmmmmm wrote: post #485
porkpieshoe wrote: post #480

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Counterpoint: I drove past TSMC in Surprise AZ and I counted at least 18 large construction cranes on that single site.

TSMC in the US is a bit of a special case .... wouldn't surprise me at all if they were virtue signalling to the Trump admin more than anything with what they are doing there.

How so? They are diversifying their production chain so that all their eggs aren't in one basket. Taiwan might be threatened one day but their US, Japan, and German plants will much less likely be in the same danger.

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Post by dbetteridge »

rubiquity wrote: post #351

Boy am I feeling this. I had my eye on building a new Threadripper machine, which requires DDR5 RDIMMs. Much to my surprise while happily building out a parts list one fine evening I learned that these are going for between $500 and $1000 for one single 16GB module right now. I think I'll hold off and squeeze a few more years out of DDR4 and PCIe 4.0.

$580 aud for a single 32gb module last month, that really hurt

Re: Memory prices climb 500% in 12 months

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

diogenescynic wrote: post #455
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Life on earth today has objectively never been better in the history of our entire species. Try to retain some perspective.

By what metric? Houses, healthcare, cars, college... everything that matters is way more expensive for current generations when you compare to multiples of income or ounces of gold. We're working harder for less to show. Yes, there are FSD vehicles and rockets that can land and be re-used... but steak is up 30% from a year ago. In most ways, life is going in the wrong direction. The only thing getting 'better' for mo…

Your grandparents almost certainly had siblings or knew of their friends siblings dying from now completely preventable diseases.

The quality, safety, comfort of low income housing in the United States is exceptional in historical terms. The fact that you CAN be anything you want is an unheard of concept even 60 years ago.

The worst cars on the market today are modern marvels of engineering compared to decades ago. Let alone throughout the history of the country.

College, lol, you literally have a secured loan to do study whatever you want with absolutely no required direction from anyone else… to receive the worlds knowledge if you want it.

Oh, things are more expensive? Yes, they’re massively higher quality and larger.

You’re mad about things, OK. They’re objectively the best they’ve ever been. This is indisputable, but again, I get that you WANT to be mad.

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