Live data from Hacker News

Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

theregister.com

411–420 of 457 posts

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

#412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've had plenty of bad airline experiences and wished they gave me more for my trouble, but clearly they are unable to at current margins. It's weird to see people simp for the airline industry. A cursory google search shows that United Airlines, to take one example, made $4,300,000,000 in profits before taxes last year. This is money that could easily be spent on things like better maintenance, more pilots and cre…

This was a fantastic year for United, and the margin is ~6%! They lost a similar amount in 2020. The earnings history definitely backs up the story of relatively low margins, weak growth and a fair amount of volatility to deal with.

> They lost a similar amount in 2020

I wouldn't be surprised that an airline lost money in one of the worst travel years of all time (due to Covid).

Cursory searching shows United made more than $3,000,000,000 in 2024. So even if 2025 was an unusually good year for them, it wasn't a complete anomaly. Just goes to show that when flights get delayed due to insufficient available crew or maintenance issues, it's a savings that's passed on to investors and the c-suite at the expense of consumers.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

#413
post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll never understand this attitude toward airlines. What did you want them to do in this situation? Keep flying the plane with engine issues so you could make your important meetings? It sounds like the airline did the right thing here but you were still mad?

When something like this happens, at the very least you should get the full cost of your ticket back, plus reimbursement for lodging and food, at least. Then maybe airlines would have more of an incentive to maintain their fleet better, and have backup planes so this kind of thing doesn't happen very often.

[deleted]

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

#414
post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are exceptional cases, detrimental to both you and the company. Company already swallowed a pretty serious loss, in that case arguably common sense is to let it go, sometimes sh*t happens.

I think that's exactly the case you would insure yourself against as an airline, so when shit hits the fan, you will not collapse.

Its kinda strange to have to insure yourself against an airline, when generally we insure ourselves against acts of nature and accidents and thieves.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

#415
post #335
post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are exceptional cases, detrimental to both you and the company. Company already swallowed a pretty serious loss, in that case arguably common sense is to let it go, sometimes sh*t happens.

If they truly were exceptional that would be fine. But long delays happen a lot , and I am sure there are things airlines could do to improve that like maintain the planes better so they aren't grounded as often and having backup planes so that if one has problems they can put customers on a different one.

[dead]

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

#416
1786990841 | Google Aims to Boost AI with Purchase of Spirit Airlines Data | https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/google-aims-to-... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49335370

1786997396 | Google Aims to Boost AI with Purchase of Spirit Airlines Data | https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/google-aims-to-... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49336867

1786999370 | Google Aims to Boost AI with $10m Purchase of Spirit Airlines Data | https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/google-aims-to-... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49337350

1787007229 | Google Buys Spirit Data for $10M | https://airlinegeeks.com/2026/08/17/report-google-buys-spiri... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49338810

1787008371 | Google to buy Spirit Airlines business data for $10M | https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/google-buy-spirit-a... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49338973

1787012955 | Google wins bankruptcy auction for Spirit Airlines emails, chats, documents | https://www.axios.com/2026/08/17/google-spirit-airlines-bank... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49339599

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

#417

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll never understand this attitude toward airlines. What did you want them to do in this situation? Keep flying the plane with engine issues so you could make your important meetings? It sounds like the airline did the right thing here but you were still mad?

I'll flip this around and say I've never understood why an airline is viewed as a special case. In the general case, if you enter into a contract and pay for a service, then don't receive that service, you're entitled to sue the service provider for your losses. For example, if I turn up to a hotel I booked only to find that the room isn't available, I'm entitled to sue the hotel for my cost in finding a reasonable l…

> But ultimately you relied on them to get you to that meeting, and they failed to do so, so you should be compensated so that you're no worse off than if they had provided the service.

By this logic, should I be able to sue Brooks Brothers for lost earnings if I split my pants in the middle of a sales pitch? Goodyear if I blow a tire on the way to a job interview? Taco Bell if I crap my pants in the middle of Jeopardy?

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

#418

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Re: AWS. Yes, you have agreed to SLAs. Credit is issued on your bill if they slip away from the 99% uptime contract.

Yes, but they do not compensate you based on your lost revenue, they compensate you based on how much you spent with them. The best you can get from them is a refund.

Depends on the SLA. Usually you negotiate an SLA to cover much more than a refund of the missed service targets (but with a fixed/known ahead of time cost for breaching the SLA).

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

#419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's exactly the case you would insure yourself against as an airline, so when shit hits the fan, you will not collapse.

Its kinda strange to have to insure yourself against an airline, when generally we insure ourselves against acts of nature and accidents and thieves.

> generally we insure ourselves against acts of nature and accidents and thieves.

No. We insure ourselves against unforeseen events whose effects are financially unbearable to us otherwise. You've conveniently carved out certain unforeseen events in order to serve your point rather than being intellectually honest.

Businesses insure themselves against the death of an important employee, for example. If that employee is murdered, that is neither an act of nature, an accident, nor thievery.

You might argue "you were robbed of an employee" and stretch the meaning of the word "thief" but then I'd say a similar stretching of "act of nature [or] accident" includes "aircraft malfunction"

Businesses also insure against a great many other things.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

#420
post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are exceptional cases, detrimental to both you and the company. Company already swallowed a pretty serious loss, in that case arguably common sense is to let it go, sometimes sh*t happens.

I think that's exactly the case you would insure yourself against as an airline, so when shit hits the fan, you will not collapse.

How do you get an insurance for lost profits due to not making a meeting as an individual?
Post reply on HN