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> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47312651 Enumerating why they won't build for specific devices people frequently ask them to seems like a good thing. In the past you've asked them to support certain hardware. They took the time to explain why they wouldn't. You went on to assert that they should change their project to support the devices you want them to, even if it means degraded security, reputation harm, a…
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They really probably aren't going to get lifetime updates to their modem's closed-source firmware. They can't even get timely updates to their modem's closed-source firmware. It's great that the OS is open source, it really is. But all bits going out over the cellular radio are handled by proprietary firmware, same as every other phone out there. Educate me: Is there a way to know when the modem's firmware needs upda…
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Exactly. You get very precise when you want to paint the device as a panacea of liberty, to the point of potentially misleading people.
The rest of the time, not so much.
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You can buy used Pixels, e.g. from 8a up. I'd claim that this is much more ecological than buying a new Fairphone. I suppose that a Pixel is of a higher quality and has less defects than a Fairphone (which changed the ODM several times). -- This said, I would never use /e/ and Murena as I read too many things I don't like.
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A friend had the Fair Phone 4. It broke after a year. Hostile customer support, not worth her time. Idk. Stories of "good guy" indie companies who drop you as soon as you fell for their marketing keep piling up. It may be greed, short sightedness or an incompetent understanding of what it means to have customers, the results are the same. See Framework for another example of this.
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You still need to rely on the OEM to properly configure the bootloader, not leak the keys, and provide updated vendor blobs.
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Even if you only care about "remote phone hijacking", not being able to provide timely vendor blob/drivers/kernel means you're wide open for EoP exploits.
As for why they take such a hard line on physical security, well it's their project and they can have whatever high standards they want, especially if they want to project an image of being an absolute secure phone. The code's all open source so it's not too hard to port to another device, especially nowadays with AI.
A friend had the Fair Phone 4. It broke after a year. Hostile customer support, not worth her time. Idk. Stories of "good guy" indie companies who drop you as soon as you fell for their marketing keep piling up. It may be greed, short sightedness or an incompetent understanding of what it means to have customers, the results are the same. See Framework for another example of this.
A friend had the Fair Phone 4. It broke after a year. Hostile customer support, not worth her time. Idk. Stories of "good guy" indie companies who drop you as soon as you fell for their marketing keep piling up. It may be greed, short sightedness or an incompetent understanding of what it means to have customers, the results are the same. See Framework for another example of this.
This doesn't match my experience at all. I'm writing this from my fairphone 3 purchased in 2019 the day of release. I purchased one for me, one for my wife. I replaced the battery on mine once, my wife never had to change it. Her phone started so show sign of age a few month ago, she switched to the FP6. I will switch to the FP6+ soon as the support come to end this month for the FP3 (I could switch this one to eOS,…
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> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47312651 Enumerating why they won't build for specific devices people frequently ask them to seems like a good thing. In the past you've asked them to support certain hardware. They took the time to explain why they wouldn't. You went on to assert that they should change their project to support the devices you want them to, even if it means degraded security, reputation harm, a…
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You used to do the, 'I can never get answers to my simple questions' routine, until I started engaging. Then, every time I say 'you keep doing this,' if I don't provide links, you complain that I didn't provide links. When I do provide links, you either move the goalposts, or drop the thread there. It's happened multiple times. To multiple respondents. You're impervious to most responses, so it's pointless to try.
As I have said before to you, I am completely content to let your comment history speak for itself for anyone who wants to go back and look. It's all there.
> You like to promote GOS
Terrible equivalency. "fsflover" is on here shilling FSF-certified devices multiple times daily, sometimes. Meanwhile, I had to go back six months: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46852121
There was this, three months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47941735
But please let me know if and when I ever recommend it to people who expressed no interest in it, for whom it would be a terrible technical solution! I should be called out on that.
> I mentioned Qubes countless times, too.
You know that I know that, because it often makes me cringe when you do and I step in to clarify. I honestly wish you wouldn't. I've spent absurd amounts of time correcting and explaining comments you've made about Qubes OS this year. You damage the project's reputation with your worse-than-empty one-liner recommendations, turning people off to it. But I've noticed you've made a little more effort lately to stop doing that. Thanks for the effort, really. I appreciate it.
But you still come off as a fanboy, from the username to the comments to the style. I'd honestly be surprised if the net migration caused for your projects was positive. Hopefully it is.
Go ahead and continue to educate people about the Librem 5. I'm happy for people to learn about it if they don't already know. You and your sidekick are eager, even stating the main thing that needs to happen to unlock an open phone utopia is that Purism revenues need to increase. You guys are being totally candid about your intent.
Just maybe act less surprised when comments that come across as misleading or outright shilling get challenged. It's harming your favorite projects' reputation, and it's running the risk of misinforming people for the purposes activism, which is when you know you've crossed over into ultra-activism.
BTW, many of the folks on the Qubes and Purism forums do a significantly better job of discussing the projects. Directing people to relevant threads there frequented by a variety of well-articulated points of view might be a better bet.
> claims of reedom
Now that's just hilarious.
No standard audio jack? That's a dealbreaker for me, especially for something touting modularity, repairability, and user control.
I figured that had largely vanished for a while now.