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Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

lovich wrote: post #23
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say “never repair the damage,” do you mean that the practicality of refilling the stores is impossible due to demand requirements, or something else I’m missing?

The caverns the oil are stored in are old salt mines that were repurposed but that means the walls and pillars are made of salt. They pump water into the caverns to float the oil to the top when they extract it. The water itself already dissolves the salt but if you get down to 70 million barrels then you start getting salt water touching on the plumbing which corrodes it, as well as the last bits of oil are sludgy a…

>_I really was not expecting anything like this. Thank you.

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Post by MomsAVoxell »

27183 wrote: post #30
MomsAVoxell wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dead people in the streets are already why diesel is >$10/gal. Don’t want expensive gas? Don’t start wars. Invest more in peace than war.

well sure.. obviously. but only very few actually have any control over that and they're not incentivized to choose peace. the best the rest of us can do is vote in elections. it doesn't generally work out very well though.

Actually we can do a lot more than just vote. We can demand justice for our own war crimes, and not be complacent about it. We can hold our own democracies accountable for the mass murder that we pay for. We can absolutely demand that prosecutions occur - or else, what else are our claims of liberal, free democracy good for?

The apathy you describe allows the bombs to continue to fall. Every 15 minutes. For the past 26 years, mostly on innocent human beings.

We can absolutely dissuade the continued dehumanization of cultures our ruling elite deem inferior and thus qualified for destruction. We can absolutely reach outside our own cultural bubbles and discover the truth of those we are taught, by authorities, to hate.

We can resist. We must resist. Or else, what are our societies good for?

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Post by leonidasrup »

This should help with transition to electric vehicles.

On the other hand, batteries for EVs are produced in even smaller number of countries (mostly China) then oil is pumped (Middle east, US, Russia, Canada).

https://www.iea.org/commentaries/global-battery-markets-are-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_extra...

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Post by 27183 »

MomsAVoxell wrote: post #32
27183 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well sure.. obviously. but only very few actually have any control over that and they're not incentivized to choose peace. the best the rest of us can do is vote in elections. it doesn't generally work out very well though.

Actually we can do a lot more than just vote. We can demand justice for our own war crimes, and not be complacent about it. We can hold our own democracies accountable for the mass murder that we pay for. We can absolutely demand that prosecutions occur - or else, what else are our claims of liberal, free democracy good for? The apathy you describe allows the bombs to continue to fall. Every 15 minutes. For the past…

The resistance you're talking about only works if like 3% of the population take to the streets. Once you see police officers marching with protesters that's when they'll start to listen. That's only ever happened once. It'll only happen again if a large number of american kids (tens or hundreds of thousands) are dying in foreign lands for years on end--i.e. not soon. That's why our leaders wage low intensity wars.

The oil crisis we're talking about here is knocking on our door right now. No amount of protesting is going to stop it.

When things get bad enough you'll see resistance. We're not there yet.

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Post by downrightmike »

leonidasrup wrote: post #33

This should help with transition to electric vehicles. On the other hand, batteries for EVs are produced in even smaller number of countries (mostly China) then oil is pumped (Middle east, US, Russia, Canada). https://www.iea.org/commentaries/global-battery-markets-are-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_extra...

#StreetCarsAreAThing

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Post by Alive-in-2025 »

cjbenedikt wrote: post #11
martythemaniak wrote: post #5

I think declaring the Straight of Hormuz a US territory will solve this problem.

How? Or was it sarcasm?

Trump did actually make this proclamation today. It was a sarcastic comment.

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Post by mrguyorama »

neaden wrote: post #6
lovich wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doubt there’s a year. They’re currently draining it down to like 270-280ish million barrels. Which is breaking the integrity of the caverns and they can’t actually drain it completely it needs something like 100ish million barrels at minimum capacity to not fuck up the pipes. On the integrity side. The caverns were only designed for a lifetime of 5 full drawdowns[1]. The caverns the oil is stored in and the pillars s…

It's very annoying that the cost of fixing all this and replenishing the stockpile is going to most likely fall on people who had little to nothing to do with it becoming such a big problem.

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Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Post by MomsAVoxell »

27183 wrote: post #34
MomsAVoxell wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually we can do a lot more than just vote. We can demand justice for our own war crimes, and not be complacent about it. We can hold our own democracies accountable for the mass murder that we pay for. We can absolutely demand that prosecutions occur - or else, what else are our claims of liberal, free democracy good for? The apathy you describe allows the bombs to continue to fall. Every 15 minutes. For the past…

The resistance you're talking about only works if like 3% of the population take to the streets. Once you see police officers marching with protesters that's when they'll start to listen. That's only ever happened once. It'll only happen again if a large number of american kids (tens or hundreds of thousands) are dying in foreign lands for years on end--i.e. not soon. That's why our leaders wage low intensity wars. T…

It all starts somewhere. Unless we, the people, actually rise and use our power to stop them, warrior narcissists will be lighting fires in perpetuity.

>The oil crisis we're talking about here is knocking on our door right now. No amount of protesting is going to stop it.

True, not until Americans start feeling the pinch for all the wars they have allowed to happen, in their name.

No time like the present. Demand justice for your war crimes, Americans.

Re: Diesel Margins Top $100 a Barrel to Reach Record High as Supply Crunch Grows

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Post by dgellow »

neaden wrote: post #6
lovich wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doubt there’s a year. They’re currently draining it down to like 270-280ish million barrels. Which is breaking the integrity of the caverns and they can’t actually drain it completely it needs something like 100ish million barrels at minimum capacity to not fuck up the pipes. On the integrity side. The caverns were only designed for a lifetime of 5 full drawdowns[1]. The caverns the oil is stored in and the pillars s…

It's very annoying that the cost of fixing all this and replenishing the stockpile is going to most likely fall on people who had little to nothing to do with it becoming such a big problem.

“Annoying” is more than euphemistic
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