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Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Why are Americans in particular expected to know details about every country on Earth? Do you think Canadians know all these facts about Brazil? Do Indians? Or Swedes? It's only Americans that are smugly called ignorant for not knowing about the entire world.

Because the US almost always scores behind its peer nations when its citizens are quizzed on generic geography.

I will offer a reasonable alternative explanation: For large, high population countries, it is one of the most geographically isolated.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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I'll flip this around and say I've never understood why an airline is viewed as a special case. In the general case, if you enter into a contract and pay for a service, then don't receive that service, you're entitled to sue the service provider for your losses. For example, if I turn up to a hotel I booked only to find that the room isn't available, I'm entitled to sue the hotel for my cost in finding a reasonable l…

Airlines are quite a special case. Learned a lot from this a few months ago: https://davidoks.blog/p/why-airlines-are-always-going-bankru... I've had plenty of bad airline experiences and wished they gave me more for my trouble, but clearly they are unable to at current margins. If you want the market to provide a better service, it already does: you can pay tons more to fly private, either a charter or your own jet…

> I've had plenty of bad airline experiences and wished they gave me more for my trouble, but clearly they are unable to at current margins.

It's weird to see people simp for the airline industry. A cursory google search shows that United Airlines, to take one example, made $4,300,000,000 in profits before taxes last year. This is money that could easily be spent on things like better maintenance, more pilots and crew, and other expenditures that would make flights less apt to be delayed or canceled. Instead it goes to shareholders and executives.

https://www.united.com/en/us/newsroom/announcements/cision-1...

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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The most likely outcome of AI + data buildup is a system of perfect price discrimination. Models will know exactly the absolutely maximum you'd be willing to pay for a service, and price everything offered to you at one cent less. All consumer surplus is siphoned into the hyperscalers.

> All consumer surplus is siphoned into the hyperscalers.

which could then be used to train even larger models or even more better models for this exact use case and the cycle could continue.

I had never thought about it but I could see this becoming reality. It's a bit crazy to think but I could so see it happening.

Maybe we might even have where the agents would be paying for us and maybe that becomes the only way to pay, so an agent which knows about your spending power and maybe even more personal info.

I think that there might be some laws against that but it could be paraphrased as a different term. For example, they could raise the overall prices and then have discounts based upon this or many other ways to actively try to do this.

Maybe for example, I could watch a Youtube video and it recommended me a product and then I later buy using my agent and then it could connect the two connections. Something like this might be the end goal of your example perhaps imo. It sounds a bit dystopian to me but I don't know, I feel like future is so unpredictable that the chances of it existing or not all seem so fuzzy to me but It's such a dystopian thought when thinking through the lens of privacy.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Poor op. /s This is the kind of attitude that puts pressure on airlines and thus pilots to fly even when situation is dubious.

The company has a lot more to lose from pilots taking risks than from angry passengers who missed their meetings. Everything done to and in an airplane is recorded, there are standard procedures for emergency situations, which pilots are expected to follow, and if the pilot didn't, he needs a really good reason, and avoiding passengers suing the company for compensation is not a good reason. We may be taking criminal…

You went completely off topic and answering something I didn't claim.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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How does this have value? Is any and every sentence in an e-mail considered 'fact' and thus to be fed into the AI? 90% of e-mails and Teams communications are inane. Polite banter, "thanks for taking care of that, I appreciate it" "please route the forms to Janet this week because Bill is on vacation" "unit will be un available until the parts come in" . I can't see the intrinsic fact value of this kind of communicat…

> How does this have value? Is any and every sentence in an e-mail considered 'fact' and thus to be fed into the AI? I have a hunch what this is for. AI companies want to make bigger inroads into nontechnical work settings. But LLM progress outside of fields where verifiable rewards for RL post-training can be synthetically generated (coding, math) has been pretty flat. Buying years of operational data from a company…

I'm scared to use an LLM trained on Spirit airlines operating procedures..

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Exactly. Corporations have more rights. Also immunity from any real consequences, but that's mostly an enforcement thing.

> Corporations have more rights. Also immunity from any real consequences That's just untrue. They may have rights that you do not like that they have, but they do not have MORE rights than humans. Similarly, companies face all sorts of penalties and restrictions that constrain them in particular ways, including very severe penalties. There might be some actions that you think ought to have more severe penalties than…

If you cut out half a sentence you can definitely counter anything. I specifically said it's an enforcement thing. If you fine meta something in Mils when they have a quarterly turn over of billions that is not consequences. But sure, let's go out and defend corporation.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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"This call is being recorded so that Gemini can decide which purge wave to assign you to. Obedient humans will be carried over for further cycles until no longer needed. If you are scheduled for termination this cycle a disposal representative will be with you shortly." I kid, but... It's probably the precursor to insurance denials and job screening. I got banned from r/technology a few weeks back for decrying tracki…

> I made the counter argument that watermarks would find their ways into everything and eventually be bound to attestation. Yup. Elsewhere in another front page thread today: "oh but apps blocking screenshots because of 'sensitive content' can be bypassed by taking a photo of your screen with another phone". Any tech-savvy person with two brain cells reading this and that: "gee, I wonder if the same magic imperceptib…

Not like that doesn't already exist, try scanning and printing a bank note (US, not sure if other countries have similar)

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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How the fuck is that even remotely legal? ... "deidentified" my ass.

In your country are you not allowed to discuss who you gave a ride to or what they said? It should really make us appreciate living in a country where freedom is the default.

In my country (US) car companies can literally collect data on any sexual activity in the vehicle.

We are as bad as any authoritarian state in this regard. Difference is businesses are using it directly for profit in addition to handing it over to governments when compelled in increasing numbers.

https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-...

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