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Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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What does "forcing" mean here ? If you want to build an alternative Knot implementation (git Hosting) you can use anything as long as the API is compatible ? Same for all of the parts of Tangled really Also, even if it's down, unlike GitHub you can self host your own AppView so it's never down for you

> you can self host your own AppView so it's never down for you Self hosted servers go down too and why people have picked hosted solutions like GitHub, Bitbucket, and GitLab

Great! Then we've got a hosted solution at tangled.org. :)

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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GitHub is a mess so lets throw our code into a Musk owned enterprise, famously a different shade of mess? How about neither? Man I wish we stuck with Subversion at this point.

This feels like an attempt to get more of Musk's non-coder fans to start vibe coding slop-products. "You can now code with Grok via Cursor and host your code on Origin, all without leaving Daddy Elon's ecosystem."

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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Literally your source:

> her stepfather used the Grok chatbot to transform a childhood photo into child sexual abuse material

He could have used Stable Diffusion. Or, if this was the 90s, Photoshop.

By your argument, we’d have to abolish the internet, or add nanny filters to everything.

How many people on HN resent it when Claude refuses an instruction? And yet here you are, arguing against personal responsibility and for a when-in-doubt-block approach to technology. Is it because it’s Musk?

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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Tangled is forcing some of their particular technologies (nix/rust) on users for those pieces and that is a hard sell. I don't use those techs, so I'm not interested to use a platform that I need to learn them to use. fwiw, the main site also seems to be down right now, infinite spinner. Docs and blog are loading though

> Tangled is forcing some of their particular technologies (nix/rust) on users for those pieces and that is a hard sell. I don't use those techs, so I'm not interested to use a platform that I need to learn them to use. Tangled CEO here. How are we pushing Rust exactly? :D Nix, yes but you don't really need to touch it at all with our Alpine-based CI images. We have been under heavy load the past day or so, we're wor…

> We have been under heavy load the past day or so, we're working round the clock to scale!

GitHub is saying the same thing

re: pushing, when I looked many months ago, it looked very much like the rust/nix/jj club, who are on average very opinionated about "good" tech choices and try to shoehorn others into using them. It's a culture I'm not interested in being around

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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I feel like the "GitHub is a mess" conversation is a little forced at times - I spend a significant portion of my work day in GitHub and while there have been an uptick in outages lately, it still feels like a very solid platform. I guess I personally wouldn't categorize it as a "mess" and the conversations I read about it here make me think I'm using an entirely different product than everyone else.

I love to hate on Github/Microsoft as much as the next person, but considering the insane amount of code being pushed to it every day, I'd say they're doing quite well.

I disagree. They’ve been struggling with up time for a long time, this seems more related to their move to azure than anything else.

It also shows there’s a fundamental problem with their architecture or their development pattern to have these sorts of issues so frequently.

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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> you can self host your own AppView so it's never down for you Self hosted servers go down too and why people have picked hosted solutions like GitHub, Bitbucket, and GitLab

Great! Then we've got a hosted solution at tangled.org. :)

no thanks, not interested ;]

atproto is a red flag for me now, toxic leaders at bluesky, who effectively control the protocol, it's not really open for others to have a say in what it looks like

you also don't have private repos and you will need to have centralized app view permission addons to have parity with user expectations, given the weak permissioned data proposal bluesky chose (their own proposal that works for what they need)

Re: Cursor launches Origin, GitHub alternative

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I feel like this misses the value of something like Github or Origin entirely though. There's nothing terribly difficult about hosting a git server. The UX and pull requests capabilities are a little involved, but there are alternatives today. What makes Github special is the ecosystem and integrations. Sentry, Linear, and so many other tools have special UX around Github. You need centralization (or at the very leas…

It sucks to see Github's fall from grace, but I just can't bring myself to use a service like this under the custody of SpaceX. Agreed. It's like going from bad to worse. Not to mention, Origin doesn't even support actions. They are doing the easiest part of git hosting and no mention of anything that actually makes Github what it is. What Origin is offering is literally a weekend project, and anything having to do w…

The thing with Gitlab is probably that it had to deal with the network effect/winner takes all conundrum. GitHub was first on the scene, it was the first to make a centralised hub popular and it has had the custom of many notable open source projects.

Gitlab as a product is miles ahead of GitHub at this point. (Except at the point of scaling very large repositories I gather.) There is just very little money in saas beside the bespoke enterprise contracts.

I’m not sure how revenue between GitHub and Gitlab compared before the Microsoft acquisition and now but GitHub has always leaned on being the popular tool with the network.

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