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AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

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Post by otterley »

godwinson__4-8 wrote: post #650
otterley wrote: post #647

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> As I said earlier, if a human cares a human will author. That is precisely the observation we're not seeing.

> That is precisely the observation we're not seeing. What is the basis for this claim? To me, my formulation reads as logically self evident, to the point of near tautology. Your claim is what? People who genuinely care about things are delegating those things to LLMs? Then in what sense do they actually "care" about them?

You said: "if a human cares, a human will author." That statement was somewhat ambiguous, and I interpreted that in such a way that the first human (the consumer) is different from the second (producer). Perhaps that's not what you meant.

I also think, respectfully, that you're overindexing on LinkedIn. I was using it as an example to illustrate a point. My primary concern is with teams I work with day to day, and to a much lesser extent, AI-written blog posts being featured here on HN.

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Post by ukj »

LPisGood wrote: post #56

My coworkers continue to dump hundreds of lines of AI documentation in every PR and every other line of code has between one and ten lines of AI generated comments, talking about the real unlock and how things are byte for byte identical on the load bearing path or how the acceptance ladder is misleading. Features are coming out and metrics are improving, but we’re basically in a post readability code base, with the…

In your CONTRIBUTING.md add a human-first readability rule. Ordinary English accessible to your average person - for extra irony ask the agent to generate the rule content.

When technical language is necessary instruct the agents to use ASD-STE100 Simplified Technical English.

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Post by miraculixx »

LPisGood wrote: post #56

My coworkers continue to dump hundreds of lines of AI documentation in every PR and every other line of code has between one and ten lines of AI generated comments, talking about the real unlock and how things are byte for byte identical on the load bearing path or how the acceptance ladder is misleading. Features are coming out and metrics are improving, but we’re basically in a post readability code base, with the…

Stop accepting these PRs. Ask for a personal 1:1 explanation. Make it the submitter's problem, not yours.

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Post by wren6991 »

supermatt wrote: post #162
cortesoft wrote: post #48

I really like the point I read somewhere the other day; instead of sending me the AI output, just send me the prompt you used to generate it. That is the only part that contains only the information you are trying to convey. The rest is just guesses flowery language added, and it confuses the actual message being sent.

How is this? https://claude.ai/share/99bfee0f-bab9-4593-aabb-377e71f1151d

I prefer your writing to Claude's. A single linear stream of consciousness is easier to parse than empty headings that grab my attention with nothing to say.

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Post by miraculixx »

atomicnumber3 wrote: post #486
noman-land wrote: post #113

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Have you considered talking about it? You're in a professional environment collectively working in a new way with a group of people. It's up to somebody to have opinions about what does and doesn't suck. If you silently go along and don't say anything you're dooming yourself and all of us to a lifetime of this garbage.

No, if he speaks against it he gets labeled "anti-AI" and laid off or not promoted. If he stays silent he retains his job. Corporate Capitalism's main innovation was virtualizing feudalism. Now anyone with a bit of cash flow can be a feudal lord with peasants to do his will. No need to maintain land or fight over it with other feudal lords. There's still fighting, naturally, but now the game isn't zero sum. The serfs…

Who'd want to work in an environment like this? It's not sustainable

Re: AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

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Post by miraculixx »

LPisGood wrote: post #211
BeetleB wrote: post #124

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It's a code review, right? Give feedback that about the docs and block merging till the issue is resolved.

This sounds easy in principle, but a half dozen of these sort sorts of massive PR’s per week is basically untenable. I’m not gonna read the hundreds of lines of added documentation to decide if they’re correct or not. The price of generating new words is just so much higher than the price of evaluating it that I can’t be bothered.

Close the PRs as unacceptable.

Re: AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

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Post by a2ff6eeb0 »

corndoge wrote: post #653
a2ff6eeb0 wrote: post #467

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It's the management desired direction, if the place is anything like my workplace. Everyone is all in on AI, and if you're not using it for everything possible, you're on the chopping block. And, really, it works. You can copy and paste between tickets and Claude, and then do manual testing. Then you tell Claude to self-review for clarity and minimalism, and stop worrying. Sure, today it's not as good as a human, but…

Seems like a sad way to spend the limited hours of your life

For now, it's less sad than working retail.

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Post by bni »

akomtu wrote: post #448
ulrikrasmussen wrote: post #442

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What is this defeatist attitude? I don't know where you work, but it is not my impression that AI has instantly turned all developers into mindless AI-pilled sheep. If you feel like a simple suggestion like that will cost you your career, then it doesn't sound like a place where any constructive criticism would have been accepted even before AI.

AI is more or less a religion right now in the corporate world. Speaking against AI amounts to heresy.

This is very true

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Post by a_c »

LPisGood wrote: post #56

My coworkers continue to dump hundreds of lines of AI documentation in every PR and every other line of code has between one and ten lines of AI generated comments, talking about the real unlock and how things are byte for byte identical on the load bearing path or how the acceptance ladder is misleading. Features are coming out and metrics are improving, but we’re basically in a post readability code base, with the…

If you are not mindful, the tests it generates is just a re-implementation. Nothing was tested but every future change needs to modify two places
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