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Re: Forbes 30 under 30 in 2012

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Post by hack_edu »

At the risk of offending the rah-rah YC back-patting... the entire Tech section is full of people who run or founded companies. Those all could fall into the Media, Social, or Marketing sections. It just seems like they're piling all the big-named startup dudes in wherever they can.

Shouldn't people blazing trails of real, new technologies get some recognition here? Those who bootstrapped this year's hundredth social-local-mobile app are rarely the ones creating new technologies and platforms that change the way we use technology. And yes, there are exceptions, but lets be honest here. Heaven forbid some academics or open-source maintainers get some attention. They went that route quite a bit before this boom.

Re: Forbes 30 under 30 in 2012

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Post by thaumaturgy »

mnicole wrote: post #4
sixQuarks wrote: post #3

Forbes 30 under 30 is a joke. One of the characters on Bravo's "Startup Silicon Valley" was chosen a couple of years ago: http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eeji45ikli/sarah-austin-host-... Anyone that's watched that show can tell you what a joke/fake she is. I'm not saying everyone on that list isn't impressive, but I would certainly take it with a grain of salt.

It seems odd to me that they highlighted Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Justin Bieber, etc. under Music when there are plenty of successful internet-/self-created acts that are much more impressive in talent and ability to market. Seems unfair to people who don't have millions of dollars and dozens of handlers. When I think 30 Under 30, I think people I don't know that are pushing the industry forward, not people that are sh…

No matter who they choose, somebody would disagree with the choice. Whereas you would prefer to see internet / bootstrapped personalities (and I would too!), somebody else would argue that pop acts are a much bigger influence among the general population.

Re: Forbes 30 under 30 in 2012

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Post by [deleted] »

robryan wrote: post #28

I am skeptical on these lists, how many tech people are they actually aware of to choose the list, would surprise me if it was chosen from a pool of less than 100 possible people. Also as I have seen in the past from these lists they use money raised as a metric for achievement/ success.

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Re: Forbes 30 under 30 in 2012

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Post by [deleted] »

sixQuarks wrote: post #3

Forbes 30 under 30 is a joke. One of the characters on Bravo's "Startup Silicon Valley" was chosen a couple of years ago: http://www.forbes.com/pictures/eeji45ikli/sarah-austin-host-... Anyone that's watched that show can tell you what a joke/fake she is. I'm not saying everyone on that list isn't impressive, but I would certainly take it with a grain of salt.

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Re: Forbes 30 under 30 in 2012

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Post by mnicole »

untog wrote: post #22
tedunangst wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who do you think marketed lady gaga before she had dozens of handlers?

Very true, but doesn't that mean she belongs on the 30 under 30 list a few years ago, not 2012?

This is more of what I was getting at; back when she was first up-and-coming and becoming a clear contender. Not x amount of albums and globally sold-out shows later. And to the sibling comment's point, I do actually think she's less influential than she has been in the past.

Re: Forbes 30 under 30 in 2012

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Post by trentmb »

hack_edu wrote: post #31

At the risk of offending the rah-rah YC back-patting... the entire Tech section is full of people who run or founded companies. Those all could fall into the Media, Social, or Marketing sections. It just seems like they're piling all the big-named startup dudes in wherever they can. Shouldn't people blazing trails of real, new technologies get some recognition here? Those who bootstrapped this year's hundredth social…

social-local-mobile apps are easy to comprehend.

Genuine innovation isn't always so.

Re: Forbes 30 under 30 in 2012

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Post by tedunangst »

untog wrote: post #22
tedunangst wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who do you think marketed lady gaga before she had dozens of handlers?

Very true, but doesn't that mean she belongs on the 30 under 30 list a few years ago, not 2012?

Only if you believe she is less influential than she used to be.
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