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Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Post by left-struck »

tiahura wrote: post #93
elric wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fully share your concerns. And I don't understand how apparently tons of Teams and email conversations can be archived and sold without any kind of scrutiny. How can such data be sold without the consent of all involved parties? What gives Google the right to use it to train LLMs? Is that just a way of washing away the legal protections?

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Why should corporations have the same rights and freedoms as human beings?

I think this is a far more important question than do you believe in right or left economic policy. idc, I want you to know, do you think a human’s rights, especially many humans together, outweigh that of non living entities like large tech companies.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Post by VBprogrammer »

tiahura wrote: post #93
elric wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fully share your concerns. And I don't understand how apparently tons of Teams and email conversations can be archived and sold without any kind of scrutiny. How can such data be sold without the consent of all involved parties? What gives Google the right to use it to train LLMs? Is that just a way of washing away the legal protections?

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Mass automated data collection and automated analysis are probably the biggest threat to freedom in the present day.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Post by Tarq0n »

pm215 wrote: post #29

I see from the court PDF that the process here involves Spirit giving the data to a "Deidentification Agent" (a third party firm that Google selects and pays for) who is responsible for stripping out things that would link data to any particular person before passing the data on to Google. Is that a standard thing, such that everybody in this transaction would have said "yes, put in the usual clauses about deidentify…

There are deïdentification firms that service primarily the medical industry. Over here they call them trusted third parties.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Post by lifestyleguru »

transcriptase wrote: post #84
breppp wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You probably should have taken the kid to small claims, that was extortion

Great way to end up on the no-sloth list

On a list sold out later to a most vicious data broker after their boat-sloth enterprise went out of business.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Post by dooglius »

limagnolia wrote: post #104
xrd wrote: post #19

About twenty years ago, I was taking a flight back from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to the US. In the middle of the night the pilot got on the loudspeaker and said "hi! Having some engine trouble, so we are landing in Manaus." Manaus is in the middle of the Amazon. Needless to say, a bit scary to hear that, but we landed without issue. They told us we had two choices: the nice hotel with a shared room, or the lesser nice…

The article directly addresses this concern: "If you’ve flown Spirit and worry that Google will soon know about a testy conversation you had with the airline’s call center, you’re being told not to worry. The court filing says the data was deidentified before being put on sale and Google has promised to scrub any PII it finds in the trove."

See the last 3 sentences of GP's post

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Post by tiahura »

left-struck wrote: post #111
tiahura wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Why should corporations have the same rights and freedoms as human beings? I think this is a far more important question than do you believe in right or left economic policy. idc, I want you to know, do you think a human’s rights, especially many humans together, outweigh that of non living entities like large tech companies.

Because corporations are just a group of people.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Post by VBprogrammer »

xrd wrote: post #19

About twenty years ago, I was taking a flight back from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to the US. In the middle of the night the pilot got on the loudspeaker and said "hi! Having some engine trouble, so we are landing in Manaus." Manaus is in the middle of the Amazon. Needless to say, a bit scary to hear that, but we landed without issue. They told us we had two choices: the nice hotel with a shared room, or the lesser nice…

This is why I get bad vibes any time I hit a cloudflare interstitial page. If you ever piss them off it would be trivial to cut you off from most of the internet.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Post by hk__2 »

limagnolia wrote: post #104
xrd wrote: post #19

About twenty years ago, I was taking a flight back from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to the US. In the middle of the night the pilot got on the loudspeaker and said "hi! Having some engine trouble, so we are landing in Manaus." Manaus is in the middle of the Amazon. Needless to say, a bit scary to hear that, but we landed without issue. They told us we had two choices: the nice hotel with a shared room, or the lesser nice…

The article directly addresses this concern: "If you’ve flown Spirit and worry that Google will soon know about a testy conversation you had with the airline’s call center, you’re being told not to worry. The court filing says the data was deidentified before being put on sale and Google has promised to scrub any PII it finds in the trove."

> Google has promised to

This part is worrying.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Post by post-it »

limagnolia wrote: post #104
xrd wrote: post #19

About twenty years ago, I was taking a flight back from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to the US. In the middle of the night the pilot got on the loudspeaker and said "hi! Having some engine trouble, so we are landing in Manaus." Manaus is in the middle of the Amazon. Needless to say, a bit scary to hear that, but we landed without issue. They told us we had two choices: the nice hotel with a shared room, or the lesser nice…

The article directly addresses this concern: "If you’ve flown Spirit and worry that Google will soon know about a testy conversation you had with the airline’s call center, you’re being told not to worry. The court filing says the data was deidentified before being put on sale and Google has promised to scrub any PII it finds in the trove."

I have a bridge to sell you.

Re: Google has acquired the data of failed US airline Spirit

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Post by john_strinlai »

limagnolia wrote: post #104
xrd wrote: post #19

About twenty years ago, I was taking a flight back from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to the US. In the middle of the night the pilot got on the loudspeaker and said "hi! Having some engine trouble, so we are landing in Manaus." Manaus is in the middle of the Amazon. Needless to say, a bit scary to hear that, but we landed without issue. They told us we had two choices: the nice hotel with a shared room, or the lesser nice…

The article directly addresses this concern: "If you’ve flown Spirit and worry that Google will soon know about a testy conversation you had with the airline’s call center, you’re being told not to worry. The court filing says the data was deidentified before being put on sale and Google has promised to scrub any PII it finds in the trove."

unfortunately "de-identified" data is typically re-identified quite trivially. so i guess we just hope google keeps its promise, and is competent in its scrubbing.
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