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How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by miki123211 »

dspillett wrote: post #376
Jtarii wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This just reinforces the notion that apple is the one that actually owns the phone and they generously let you use it. Just do a security alert pop up "You are screenshotting potentially sensitive information, are you sure you want to continue".

Unfortunately “are you sure?” checks simply don't work, too many people are trained to just click yes/OK to close the message and get back to what they were trying to do.

"are you sure" checks work if you force deliberate effort on the part of the user.

Imagine having to type "I want to get hacked" on a keyboard layout which randomizes with every character.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by hahn-kev »

dspillett wrote: post #376
Jtarii wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This just reinforces the notion that apple is the one that actually owns the phone and they generously let you use it. Just do a security alert pop up "You are screenshotting potentially sensitive information, are you sure you want to continue".

Unfortunately “are you sure?” checks simply don't work, too many people are trained to just click yes/OK to close the message and get back to what they were trying to do.

The number of times I've seen people blow though prompts which directly refer to the issue they are coming to me about... SMH

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by Jtarii »

dspillett wrote: post #376
Jtarii wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This just reinforces the notion that apple is the one that actually owns the phone and they generously let you use it. Just do a security alert pop up "You are screenshotting potentially sensitive information, are you sure you want to continue".

Unfortunately “are you sure?” checks simply don't work, too many people are trained to just click yes/OK to close the message and get back to what they were trying to do.

Well, it sounds like those people are just too stupid to own phones at all then.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by ShadowOfThePit »

backwardsponcho wrote: post #398
8-prime wrote: post #373

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only 'pocket computers' are an issue. I was thoroughly shocked when I found out that websites can detect that the dev-tools are open. That is something that a website should never be able to know, yet here we are.

I ran into a government site that not only was aware of the devtools being open, but also stopped virtually all user actions if it did. And it worked quite well- to bypass it, I had to block the detection script from loading altogether since merely removing the event listener didn't work.

I ran into a different site where every single action had a debug breakpoint pausing everything if you had devtools open. Luckily, you can disable breakpoints.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by kllrnohj »

blauditore wrote: post #319
jjcm wrote: post #49

If it's between this and a perpetual logo, I'll take this any day. I actually really like this approach. The action button isn't relevant in this context, and it doesn't occlude the content. There's certainly situations where you wouldn't want this (ie if you're developing the app and you want to redesign starting from a screenshot), but for the average user I think this isn't overly hostile. I understand that people…

I actually hate that apps are allowed to blank out content on screenshots, and this can't be disabled. There are apps completely mis-using it, e.g. mobile payment apps which hardly show any sensitive data in most cases, but now I can't share e.g. infos on screen with someone else easily. It's a classic case of someone discovering a feature and thinking "hell yeah, so much security" without understanding or caring abo…

The remote tech support scam using screen sharing apps like team viewer is unfortunately very common and is basically why this exists.

It's also patronizing to ask during setup or whatever if the user is dumb enough to get scammed like this, even though that is kinda the actual piece of information needed

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by setopt »

Perz1val wrote: post #332
TeMPOraL wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've yet to see someone saying "oh, I'm so glad my screenshot was blacked-out because I didn't realize I was in a banking app". It feels patronizing. Yes, this. Payment apps, government apps, IM communications. The other day I almost rooted my phone in anger trying to get around this, before pausing and realizing that this would only cause even more problems with those apps, thanks to remote attestation "features".…

Then they deserve you taking a photo with a second phone

There might be a market for a USB-C camera to take phone screen photos to immediately upload back into the phone.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by TeMPOraL »

setopt wrote: post #407
Perz1val wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then they deserve you taking a photo with a second phone

There might be a market for a USB-C camera to take phone screen photos to immediately upload back into the phone.

Yeah, few moments ago it hit me there could be a market for a phone case with in-built camera(s) that photograph your screen at a shallow angle on demand, and transform that into a screenshot automatically.

However, my idea happens to hit a very new limitation: for some reason, "privacy filters" are suddenly a thing. New phones have them built-in as some new magic display function, and for everyone else, there's this mad marketing push to get people to buy and use privacy foils in place of glass/foil screen protectors.

IDK what's up with those. Since when "shoulder surfing" with smartphones is a real problem, and why do marketers and product designers bet there's so much latent demand for it?

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by TeMPOraL »

hahn-kev wrote: post #403
dspillett wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately “are you sure?” checks simply don't work, too many people are trained to just click yes/OK to close the message and get back to what they were trying to do.

The number of times I've seen people blow though prompts which directly refer to the issue they are coming to me about... SMH

Trained by the many more prompts that are irrelevant in practice, and merely stand between a person and the task they're trying to accomplish.

It's not like computers give people a good reason to read the error popups. 90% of them these days are just "oops, computer pooped itself, a well trained army of monkeys is on its way to clean it up; try again later 0xbunchofbullshit-hexadecimal-uuids-for-vendor-telemetry ;-)" anyway.

Most of the time, people are given only two options: give up on their task, or ignore the popup. No point in reading the message in such cases, it brings zero value.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by GuB-42 »

flir wrote: post #377
TeMPOraL wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I've yet to see someone saying "oh, I'm so glad my screenshot was blacked-out because I didn't realize I was in a banking app". It feels patronizing. Yes, this. Payment apps, government apps, IM communications. The other day I almost rooted my phone in anger trying to get around this, before pausing and realizing that this would only cause even more problems with those apps, thanks to remote attestation "features".…

We're heading for two devices, IMO. A useful one and one for communicating with bureaucracies.

That's exactly my idea. My phone is a lost cause, not really "mine" anymore. The good thing is that I stopped caring about the device. I take what's cheap and well supported (Samsung "A" series is the right kind of boring to me), no more expensive flagships.

The "useful device" is a laptop.

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