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GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by solenoid0937 »

Razengan wrote: post #286
nozzlegear wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was an issue at least a year ago. I had signed up for a claude account on my iPhone and then wanted to sign in on my laptop but nope, not possible. Insane they still haven't fixed it. Can somebody at Anthropic tag claude in slack or whatever goofy shit you do and ask it to add Apple OAuth to your website? Clearly humans aren't testing it.

I signed up on iOS, Sign In with Apple, cause I don't go around giving random companies my actual email if I can help it and sure enough, I was right to do so: They don't even let you remove your payment method afterwards. Every other store, Steam etc., lets you. No way I have enough trust to install their desktop app after that, so I just want to try it through their website.. Can Sign In with Google, but not with A…

There is no Claude hype on HN, HN has more vitriol for Claude than any online forum I've seen

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by stavros »

dannyw wrote: post #309
stavros wrote: post #260

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It would seem that getting lots of data is exactly the reason to discount this.

OpenAI says they don't use any API data for training. (there's probably going to be a reply about 'but how can you trust them'; I'm just stating what they say)

Does OpenRouter say the same?

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by solenoid0937 »

dannyw wrote: post #309
stavros wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would seem that getting lots of data is exactly the reason to discount this.

OpenAI says they don't use any API data for training. (there's probably going to be a reply about 'but how can you trust them'; I'm just stating what they say)

Unless it's in your contract, they will use the data. They might not be using it now, but they will eventually.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by mrngld »

pimeys wrote: post #308
ywvcbk wrote: post #284

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> Opus or Sol in our use cases, with a fraction of the price. I assume it's highly use case dependent, though? Even before the price cut seems like Sol was price competitive with Kimi https://artificialanalysis.ai/models?models=gpt-5-6-sol-xhig... And now it should be considerably cheaper

Long-context agentic tasks and Rust engineering are our use cases where Kimi definitely is better than Sol. We can measure our own systems and the numbers say that Sol has no chance against K3 or Opus, and K3 is so so so much cheaper than Opus right now. You cannot just look at the price tags for these models, you must eval and see the price per task. In our previous eval rounds Sol was more expensive than Opus (with…

China's 50 Cent Party being a real and noticeable thing (and the two biggest things they like to shill is open weight Chinese models and the futility of resisting a Taiwan invasion), I have to take things like this with a healthy dose of skepticism without corroborating data, since independent evals didn't show the price per task lead you're showing.

If there's independent data showing this feel free to share a link, I haven't seen it. DeepSWE has been most closely matching what I see in my own use.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by tclancy »

XCSme wrote: post #274
kolinko wrote: post #254

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Or they have gotten new asics and can do now inference way cheaper

Why would they infer faster with new shoes?

It is a well-accepted fact new shoes make you faster. Current science suggests it is due to the lighter weight from lack of dirt, though there is a competing theory which says it's an optical illusion due to the fact the pure white streaks resemble speedforce.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by justinbaker84 »

netsec_burn wrote: post #32

After using Claude for a long time, I tested Sol 5.6 for the first time today. Love it, its an incredibly capable model and uses far fewer tokens/time thinking. Its what I imagine Fable would be if I haven't been downgraded on every conversation - even after completing the verification program. I think I may cancel my Claude subscription finally.

I switched from claude to gpt when 5.6 came out for the same reasons. I don't understand why so many people are still using claude when GPT and open source are so much better.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by mrngld »

andrewingram wrote: post #76
jchw wrote: post #60

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I think Fable's dominance is overstated. It definitely has the lead, but quantifying what that lead actually is is really hard. I'm using GPT 5.6 Sol to do some shit that I personally would consider "crazy" - low level undocumented hardware driver alchemy, reverse engineering highly obfuscated code, even a bit of screwing around with a rendering engine in Vulkan, really just about the most complex tasks I can get any…

I used Sol to extract the remaining decryption keys from the Super Mario Maker 2 (Switch) game files. Someone had previously extracted all the keys from the original release, but not any of the new ones from updates. Not only did it succeed, but it helped me understand the data sufficiently to add support for “Super World” rendering to my level viewer (which I made back in 2021), eg the little widget at the top of ht…

Interesting. I've been wishing that old 'Stars!' game from the 90s would play easily on modern systems. I'd love it if we'd got to the point where I could point Codex at a folder with an ISO from my CD of the game and tell it to go reverse engineer it all for understanding of game mechanics, then go recreate it in a modern language capable of running cross-platform. Scarcely any need to improve on graphics, it could even be a PWA.

There's people that have tried to contact Jeff McBride and follow the IP trail but the IP is currently owned by a company that went defunct. Not sold, but no one is even bothering to register its LLC any more, it's simply dead.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by f6v »

IshKebab wrote: post #75
CompoundEyes wrote: post #15

I used over a billion tokens per day of gpt-5.6 sol xhigh starting last Wednesday through Sunday before reaching my reset limit. The $200 pro plan is still the best deal.

A billion tokens per day?? Plausible estimates put the energy use at about 0.001 Wh/token, which means you're using 1000 kWh/day in electricity, just to generate slop. That's about the same as 50-100 houses. 300kg of CO2 per day - roughly the same as flying from London to New York every three days . I think on average AI energy usage is not as big a deal as everyone is panicking about, but your usage is truly absurd…

> just to generate slop

Do some people still deny you can do a shit ton of work with AI?

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by datakan »

Razengan wrote: post #286
nozzlegear wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was an issue at least a year ago. I had signed up for a claude account on my iPhone and then wanted to sign in on my laptop but nope, not possible. Insane they still haven't fixed it. Can somebody at Anthropic tag claude in slack or whatever goofy shit you do and ask it to add Apple OAuth to your website? Clearly humans aren't testing it.

I signed up on iOS, Sign In with Apple, cause I don't go around giving random companies my actual email if I can help it and sure enough, I was right to do so: They don't even let you remove your payment method afterwards. Every other store, Steam etc., lets you. No way I have enough trust to install their desktop app after that, so I just want to try it through their website.. Can Sign In with Google, but not with A…

Can't change your email address with Claude either. You have to delete your whole account and create a new one. Absolute shit software and they expect us to believe these things are super powerful world changing things.
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